Writhedhornbill
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For my Tuition project I'm redsigning the London zoo zo world. The three main species are:
Bearded pig 3.6
Malayan Tapir 1.1
Banteng 1.1
Bearded pig 3.6
Malayan Tapir 1.1
Banteng 1.1
ZSL London Zoo Londo Zoo 'ZooWorld'
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Something smartish would be nice.
I think a Malay forest plantation coupled with new landscaping and planting of suitable vegetation with the above species would surely make a drab building look mighty interesting.
However, I would favour the banteng in a group of 1.2 with calves. They could divide the area into 3 separate exhibits that would visually immerse people into the landscape (so visitors can enjoy these 3 different species as somehow emerging from the same habitat type).
Writhedhornbill
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I need a plan of the building!! Has anyone got acess to one!! I need to know where the aviaries are!!!
I'm sure there used to be a plan somewhere for the original building (part of Casson's drawings). I had it in a book, but that's gone back to the library, its sort of based on two semi circles, I'll see if I can find one for you.
Also, could you not use 1.1 Anoa, seeing as they're already at the zoo? ( I guess they're not strictly malaysian though).
EDIT: If it helps the book was something like 'Animals and Architecture' and was by the guy who started Woodland Park Zoo in the US, is it David Hancocks? It had a giraffe walking through an arch on the front.
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Writhedhornbill
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Thanks, I had not thought of them. I have a book on mammals of south east asia, and as Anoa are from Sulawesi, they weren't listed. Thanks Chris!!
How many large species can you stick in? If one includes the anoa (which I personally love as great animals). What is than wrong with the babirusa or Malayan tapirs?
We have to seriously think about that. Can that somehow be made part of the plan? (to writhedhornbill)?????
For in house, I think it is justified to look for several bird species. Starting with the hornbills of course, but also Ptilinops, Timor sparrow, Bali starling, roulroul. It be also nice to have some glass containers with SE Asian reptiles and amphibians in there.
That would make for a fine in house and outside rainforest exhibit ... right's in the middle of swinging London town!!!!
We have to seriously think about that. Can that somehow be made part of the plan? (to writhedhornbill)?????
For in house, I think it is justified to look for several bird species. Starting with the hornbills of course, but also Ptilinops, Timor sparrow, Bali starling, roulroul. It be also nice to have some glass containers with SE Asian reptiles and amphibians in there.
That would make for a fine in house and outside rainforest exhibit ... right's in the middle of swinging London town!!!!
Writhedhornbill
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I've put Prevost's and flying squirrels, Lesser and/or large tree shrews, a type of mouse deer, a species of Loris, Roul roul partridges, White rumped shama, Jambu fruit dove, Nicobar pigeon, Crested fireback, crestless fireback, malay peacock pheasant, Banded pitta, white collared kingfisher, coral billed ground cuckoos, Fairy bluebird, Asian glossy starling, white crested hornbill and Elongated tortoises. There are not many reptiles, because of the heating and lighting issues in the house, but I should be able to get away with elongated tortoise and maybe spiny turtle.
Large animals are now anoa, bearded pig and Malayan tapir. Bearded pigs are already in the building, and babirusa are quite hard for a zoo to acquire. Chester spent over a year looking for their new male.
There is only one hornbill because the aviaries are not that big and white crested hornbills are not HUGE hornbills anyway.
London zoo already keep Bali starlings in their bird house and timor sparrows aren't that common in captivity at the moment.
Does anyone else have any other ideas for other bird, small mammal or Reptile/amphibian species?
Large animals are now anoa, bearded pig and Malayan tapir. Bearded pigs are already in the building, and babirusa are quite hard for a zoo to acquire. Chester spent over a year looking for their new male.
There is only one hornbill because the aviaries are not that big and white crested hornbills are not HUGE hornbills anyway.
London zoo already keep Bali starlings in their bird house and timor sparrows aren't that common in captivity at the moment.
Does anyone else have any other ideas for other bird, small mammal or Reptile/amphibian species?
I've been thinking about a 'Crepuscular' South East Asian House for nocturnal species. As Hadley suggested simulating a rainforest in the old elephant house might be hard, but a rainforest at night may be a little easier as lighting can be used to great effect.
It would mean the Clore Pavillion can focus specifically on South American species downstairs as well as up, and perhaps even give some downstairs space to diurnal species (and not necessarily mammals).
The species list for my proposed SEA area is as follows (I know it's a little fanciful with some fairly unlikely species but who cares!):-
Camel paddock (and indoor facility)- Malayan Tapir
Bearded Pig paddock (and indoor facility)- Bearded Pigs
Porcupine outdoor enclosure- Binturong and Prevost's Tree Squirrels (may be hard to secure).
Hippos indoor- Hog badger (with pool filled with soil for digging)
Also indoors (but not in current bay exhibits)- Large Flying Fox, Javan Slow Loris, Lesser Malayan Chevrotain and Malay Civet.
If tapirs could be mixed with a primate species without them escaping that'd be a bonus.
It would mean the Clore Pavillion can focus specifically on South American species downstairs as well as up, and perhaps even give some downstairs space to diurnal species (and not necessarily mammals).
The species list for my proposed SEA area is as follows (I know it's a little fanciful with some fairly unlikely species but who cares!):-
Camel paddock (and indoor facility)- Malayan Tapir
Bearded Pig paddock (and indoor facility)- Bearded Pigs
Porcupine outdoor enclosure- Binturong and Prevost's Tree Squirrels (may be hard to secure).
Hippos indoor- Hog badger (with pool filled with soil for digging)
Also indoors (but not in current bay exhibits)- Large Flying Fox, Javan Slow Loris, Lesser Malayan Chevrotain and Malay Civet.
If tapirs could be mixed with a primate species without them escaping that'd be a bonus.
Hi Jonathan
Just catching up with this thread. All very interesting. I remember some discussion some years back when London were considering turning the Mappins into a gorilla enclosure (they were closed at the time) and the idea that maybe the Casson Pavilion would make a good great ape exhibit (gorilla on one side and chimps on the other). Of course the elephants and rhino were still there at that time so was complete fantasy but I always thought it might be the only thing fitting for a building on such a scale. It would have been expensive allowing for listed status etc but they just spent £5m on a new gorilla enclosure so could have been done I reckon.
Anyway, if you are still doing your project and dont have a plan of the buidling, your best bet is 'The buidlings of London Zoo' of which I have a copy and could scan the relevant pages and post if you need them.
Cheers
Dean
Writhedhornbill
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Thanks Dean, I'd much appreciate that.
Hi Jonathan
Here is page showing plan of Casson Pavilion, let me know if you need more info.
Regards
Dean
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Hi there
A few (bird house, reptile house, mappins, tecton penguin pool, gorilla roundhouse) but some are small reproductions of original architect drawings so might not scan very well.
Saw a second hand copy on amazon today for £3.99.
'The buildings of London Zoo' - Peter Guillery. Published by Royal Commission on the historical monuments of England (1993). ISBN 1 873592 15 9
Cheers
Dean
