ZSL Whipsnade Zoo Review - How i remember the zoo, and how it has changed -14/04/2010

nedpepper

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Although i am not new to this website, i am rather inexperienced in all its functions, and previously have just used it as a refernece when reaserching various zoos. So i have decided to review my trip to Whipsnade yesterday, as a lot has changed from the last time i visisted in 2004.

After a complicated bus journey from Hemel station to whipsnade i reached the enterance at roughly 11:30, and had my photograph taken with my girlfriend by a man who worked for the zoo. After a speedy walk through the Ring tailed Lemurs - which wheer all tucked away in small groups keeing out of the cold wind - we came to the first of the new arrivals, European Lynx. As far as i could tell they only had one in the exhibit, and it took a while to spot it as it was lying underneath a fallen log, camoflauged so you could barely see it in the rubble and leaves. i could not really get a good photo here so decided to look at the exhibit again on my way out of the park. When i last visited the Lynx cage was inhabited by Cheetahs, which i remember constantly prowling along the back of the fencing. I then viewed the Wild Boars of which there where two, their newly put up exhibit was in my opinion quite a good one, as although it seemed very cheaply made, suited the needs of the boars very well giving them plenty of mush and mud to forage in.

I then came to the Eurasian Brown Bear cage which had not changed at all since i last came, par a small viewing house that had been built at the side just after the Wild Boars. The Bears where being fed which was very enjoyable to watch. On the other side of the raised viewing platform was the new Wolverine enclosure. I had never seen one before so this was new to me, but could not see it all that well as it was running around at the back looking at something out of its cage that we could not work out. The exhibit seemed once again cheap but very good for the animal, it was just a shame we could not get a better look at it, although that was no fault of the zoos. I only saw one? does anyone know if there are any others or if they are intending to get any more in the future? same question for the lynx? I remeber the last time i came there where white wallaby and stork in that section, and saw neither of them in a nother part ofthe zoo through out the day. The penguin and reindeers where as i remmebered, and the same for the bison chimpanzee and wolfs, but ofcourse the Moose enclousre was new. I had also never seen a Moose and got a decent look as it was right up by the fence, but once again would have liked to see more. i understand of course you cannot just throw animals in, you can only have a certain number per enclousre and all that, but it did seem a little lonely perhaps?

Giraffes where as i remembered, as was a lot of the park from here on, White Rhino, bongo, waterbuck etc. . . I then walked round to the Hippos, aknowledeging where the old lion dell was, that i have only a very slight memory of as i was three at the time. Pygmy Hippos and common where as i remembered, and on the other side there where some antelope, i think maybe kudus though i am not sure, but there was no yak in that paddock which i remember there always being a lone one in before. the new Cheetah Rock enclourse did not seem all that great to me, after seeing all its advertisement it seemed nothing more than a rock in a paddock? i mean the viewing area of it was very attractive, but the enclosure in my opinion was nothign special?

I only saw three lions in the Serengeti section, was under the impression there where more, it seemed like a nice enough enclousre but i did not stay for more than a minute as i was in a rush to watch the sea lion show. When i use to visit the zoo, i was too young to consider the enclousres them selves, but it really dawned on me that the pool for the sealions was appaling, i understand that it is not the easiest thing to renew, but i do think something needs to be done about that, its a real eye saw. The Tigers were as i remembered, and the enclosure was still as impressive. I then came to Sloth Bears, which have always been one of my favourite animals, (i used to see them regularly at the Mappin Terraces as a child), i felt that the enclousre was of decent size and seemed quite attractive, which i did not expect as i know it has had mixed reviews on other zoochat posts. I only saw two of the three bears and both where locked inside their houses, but it was nice to see them none the less. A quick look at the wild horses, (i know their real names but havent a clue how to spell it!) and came to the Referbished Rhinos of Nepal, which i also enjoyed, it is very strange to be able to look down on a Rhino like that. Nearing the end of my visit we went into the Elephant house and saw the newly born baby that was only three days old, it could barely stand and stayed very close to its mother. We had to be temporeraly shut into the house as the other elephants were being walked back into their enclosure, wlking in single file and holding the tail of the one in front.

We could not view the Bird garden as it was being referbished, so instead went straight to the Discovery Centre, which was also different to how i remember. There was no monitor lizard or electric eel, which was slightly dissapointing, nor could i find any chameleons? The burmese python had also been moved, but apart from that it was more or less the same. I enjoyed the Dwarf Crocodiles, but noticed there were no butterflies flying above anymore.

That was more or less the end of my visit, but on the whole i very much enjoyed it, especially the new exhbits.

one thing i forgot to mention was that there where short clawed otters where the seals used to be, which i now realise what a ridiculous exhibit for a seal as the water was far too shallow? does anyone have a photo of the seals in that enclosure?

i welcome any feed back to my review as this is my first on the website, and would love to hear how they remember the zoo and what has changed about it now,
 
Although i am not new to this website, i am rather inexperienced in all its functions, and previously have just used it as a refernece when reaserching various zoos. So i have decided to review my trip to Whipsnade yesterday, as a lot has changed from the last time i visisted in 2004.

After a complicated bus journey from Hemel station to whipsnade i reached the enterance at roughly 11:30, and had my photograph taken with my girlfriend by a man who worked for the zoo. After a speedy walk through the Ring tailed Lemurs - which wheer all tucked away in small groups keeing out of the cold wind - we came to the first of the new arrivals, European Lynx. As far as i could tell they only had one in the exhibit, and it took a while to spot it as it was lying underneath a fallen log, camoflauged so you could barely see it in the rubble and leaves. i could not really get a good photo here so decided to look at the exhibit again on my way out of the park. When i last visited the Lynx cage was inhabited by Cheetahs, which i remember constantly prowling along the back of the fencing. I then viewed the Wild Boars of which there where two, their newly put up exhibit was in my opinion quite a good one, as although it seemed very cheaply made, suited the needs of the boars very well giving them plenty of mush and mud to forage in.

I then came to the Eurasian Brown Bear cage which had not changed at all since i last came, par a small viewing house that had been built at the side just after the Wild Boars. The Bears where being fed which was very enjoyable to watch. On the other side of the raised viewing platform was the new Wolverine enclosure. I had never seen one before so this was new to me, but could not see it all that well as it was running around at the back looking at something out of its cage that we could not work out. The exhibit seemed once again cheap but very good for the animal, it was just a shame we could not get a better look at it, although that was no fault of the zoos. I only saw one? does anyone know if there are any others or if they are intending to get any more in the future? same question for the lynx? I remeber the last time i came there where white wallaby and stork in that section, and saw neither of them in a nother part ofthe zoo through out the day. The penguin and reindeers where as i remmebered, and the same for the bison chimpanzee and wolfs, but ofcourse the Moose enclousre was new. I had also never seen a Moose and got a decent look as it was right up by the fence, but once again would have liked to see more. i understand of course you cannot just throw animals in, you can only have a certain number per enclousre and all that, but it did seem a little lonely perhaps?

Giraffes where as i remembered, as was a lot of the park from here on, White Rhino, bongo, waterbuck etc. . . I then walked round to the Hippos, aknowledeging where the old lion dell was, that i have only a very slight memory of as i was three at the time. Pygmy Hippos and common where as i remembered, and on the other side there where some antelope, i think maybe kudus though i am not sure, but there was no yak in that paddock which i remember there always being a lone one in before. the new Cheetah Rock enclourse did not seem all that great to me, after seeing all its advertisement it seemed nothing more than a rock in a paddock? i mean the viewing area of it was very attractive, but the enclosure in my opinion was nothign special?

I only saw three lions in the Serengeti section, was under the impression there where more, it seemed like a nice enough enclousre but i did not stay for more than a minute as i was in a rush to watch the sea lion show. When i use to visit the zoo, i was too young to consider the enclousres them selves, but it really dawned on me that the pool for the sealions was appaling, i understand that it is not the easiest thing to renew, but i do think something needs to be done about that, its a real eye saw. The Tigers were as i remembered, and the enclosure was still as impressive. I then came to Sloth Bears, which have always been one of my favourite animals, (i used to see them regularly at the Mappin Terraces as a child), i felt that the enclousre was of decent size and seemed quite attractive, which i did not expect as i know it has had mixed reviews on other zoochat posts. I only saw two of the three bears and both where locked inside their houses, but it was nice to see them none the less. A quick look at the wild horses, (i know their real names but havent a clue how to spell it!) and came to the Referbished Rhinos of Nepal, which i also enjoyed, it is very strange to be able to look down on a Rhino like that. Nearing the end of my visit we went into the Elephant house and saw the newly born baby that was only three days old, it could barely stand and stayed very close to its mother. We had to be temporeraly shut into the house as the other elephants were being walked back into their enclosure, wlking in single file and holding the tail of the one in front.

We could not view the Bird garden as it was being referbished, so instead went straight to the Discovery Centre, which was also different to how i remember. There was no monitor lizard or electric eel, which was slightly dissapointing, nor could i find any chameleons? The burmese python had also been moved, but apart from that it was more or less the same. I enjoyed the Dwarf Crocodiles, but noticed there were no butterflies flying above anymore.

That was more or less the end of my visit, but on the whole i very much enjoyed it, especially the new exhbits.

one thing i forgot to mention was that there where short clawed otters where the seals used to be, which i now realise what a ridiculous exhibit for a seal as the water was far too shallow? does anyone have a photo of the seals in that enclosure?

i welcome any feed back to my review as this is my first on the website, and would love to hear how they remember the zoo and what has changed about it now,

From memory the bird garden won't be reopening to the public but will be an offshow area. Still too early for butterflies in the discovery centre.

I will dig out some pictures of the common and harbour seal, snoopy and sammy, but am in the middle of moving right now so may take awhile. They were both rescues, when sammy died, snoopy was moved to a seal sanctury on the south coast for other seal company
 
From memory the bird garden won't be reopening to the public but will be an offshow area. Still too early for butterflies in the discovery centre.

I will dig out some pictures of the common and harbour seal, snoopy and sammy, but am in the middle of moving right now so may take awhile. They were both rescues, when sammy died, snoopy was moved to a seal sanctury on the south coast for other seal company

yeah that would be great if you could get some pictures, thanks a lot. and no you say it i didnt really think about the time of year for the butterflies, your right it is too early.

tar for the feed back
 
i have just remember something else. when i was viewing the penguins i noticed a very old looking set of stairs, they were made of stone and lead up to an arch. they were sort of near the back of the new lynx enclosure but i could not much see them as there was large green fencing surrounding the area. could these be from an old exhibit that was there a long time ago? i dont know much history of the zoo, but im sure there are plenty of people on here who do :) ?
 
i have just remember something else. when i was viewing the penguins i noticed a very old looking set of stairs, they were made of stone and lead up to an arch. they were sort of near the back of the new lynx enclosure but i could not much see them as there was large green fencing surrounding the area. could these be from an old exhibit that was there a long time ago? i dont know much history of the zoo, but im sure there are plenty of people on here who do :) ?

after a quick look at the animals of past and present thread, i have seen that there were once pumas kept by the bears, which would have fitted the style of the aincent stone steps, i am assuming this is what i saw then. . .
 
i have just remember something else. when i was viewing the penguins i noticed a very old looking set of stairs, they were made of stone and lead up to an arch. they were sort of near the back of the new lynx enclosure but i could not much see them as there was large green fencing surrounding the area. could these be from an old exhibit that was there a long time ago? i dont know much history of the zoo, but im sure there are plenty of people on here who do :) ?

I think I know the steps to which you’re referring.

Assuming that I am thinking of the same steps as you, then they have never led to an animal exhibit in all the years I’ve been visiting Whipsnade and I don’t think that they ever did so in the past.

These steps are described in various 1930s guides as follows “.....a flight of steps leads to the flat top of a large Reservoir....”
 
I think I know the steps to which you’re referring.

Assuming that I am thinking of the same steps as you, then they have never led to an animal exhibit in all the years I’ve been visiting Whipsnade and I don’t think that they ever did so in the past.

These steps are described in various 1930s guides as follows “.....a flight of steps leads to the flat top of a large Reservoir....”

They do indeed lead to what can only be described as a water tank for the zoo, a resevoir from the pump room which was covered. Lucy Pinder in her book "whipsnade my africa" describes its set up and her father the engineer of the zoo having to go into the cold water on occasion. A very good read for anyone interested in Whipsnades history
 
Thanks for the book suggestion Zebedee101 :D just purchased for a very reasonable price second hand from a well known jersey based company :D
 
zebedee101 said:
They do indeed lead to what can only be described as a water tank for the zoo, a resevoir from the pump room which was covered. Lucy Pinder in her book "whipsnade my africa" describes its set up and her father the engineer of the zoo having to go into the cold water on occasion. A very good read for anyone interested in Whipsnades history
I'm guessing that's not the same Lucy Pinder I'm thinking of.....
 
I'm guessing that's not the same Lucy Pinder I'm thinking of.....

The book is actually by Lucy Pender, wonder how I mixed that up!!!!!!

Karen, it a really good easy read. It also details Gerald Durrells time at the zoo. Geralds book "beasts in my belfry" also describes his time at Whipsnade as a juniour keeper. I am an avid fan of all things Whipsnade and gave a couple of history tours there about ten years ago as a volunteer. I think I have every book, guidebook and postcard ever published and my prize possesions are an original copy of the Times Newspaper from opening day at the zoo including photos and some coloured postcards of the original enclosures. The zoo certainly has changed over the years but with the monetry problems with ZSL in the past I dont think it has kept pace with other collections. I recently read a history of chester zoo and it used Whipsnade as a role model. Chester has certainly eclipsed Whipsnade now which was apparent as I visited earlier this year. Not being that initimate with Chester of yesteryear and having lived abroad for awhile would anyone who knows both Chester and Whipsnade comment on when it took the lead?
 
Not being that initimate with Chester of yesteryear and having lived abroad for awhile would anyone who knows both Chester and Whipsnade comment on when it took the lead?

I share your fondness for Whipsnade and have been a regular visitor there for as long as I can remember, which is as far back as the early 1950's..;) I have also visited Chester from the early 1960's onwards, but much less frequently than Whipsnade.

But even on my early visits to Chester I was struck by the great diversity of species in general, which even in that period at Whipsnade was really confined to the Ungulate collection. So they have never been collections with great similarities.

However, Chester have continually forged ahead since then, with more species aquired, new buildings etc. and few, if any, obvious 'blips' Whereas Whipsnade has mirrored London's problems as you said, and during the early 1990's it seemed to undergo a dramatic 'simplification' of its stock. But I would say Chester started drawing ahead as the more diverse and modern collection several decades earlier(1970's?);).
 
Pertinax,

Thanks for the reply. I have been going to Whipsnade since the early 70s the atmosphere seems to have changed dramatically these days. My favourite time to go is in deep winter with the best day ever being in such a cold blizzard I saw 5 people all day including the cashier! Whipsnade has been described as the zoo of ungulates by several people, however i do think it has diverified from just deer and antelope which it was known for.

With all those that have a soft spot for the place and a few of us that have an interest in Whipsnade history I would like to suggest a zoochat meet there one weekend later in the year, anyone interested?
 
Whipsnade has been described as the zoo of ungulates by several people, however i do think it has diverified from just deer and antelope which it was known for.

What Whipsnade have done is highlight other exhibits like the Elephants and new Asian Rhino exhibit, new Lions and Cheetahs, the animal Shows and Sealion Display and now the European animal (Beasts are back) exhibit leaving the still large ungulate collection rather in the background, as these are species the general visitors are less attracted to see.

But they have closed the Bird Garden- possibly permanently(?) which has lost them some diversity. Compared to Chester, Whipsnade have never been big on Birds, Primates, Reptiles etc so I still would still rate Chester as always having had the more diverse collection. And Whipsnade have never matched the superior style of some of Chester's best exhibits such as the Tropic Realm, Orangutan RORA, European Bird Aviary etc, while their Elephant and rhino exhibits are mostly not comparable with those at Chester, being simpler and more fundamental buildings. However the new Asian rhino, Lion and Cheetah exhibits at Whipsnade are more within their league perhaps.
 
With all those that have a soft spot for the place and a few of us that have an interest in Whipsnade history I would like to suggest a zoochat meet there one weekend later in the year, anyone interested?

Seems a good idea to me; I’d definitely be interested.
 
I would argue that Whipsnade's elephant facility is of a higher standard than chester's outside, however the house itself does not compare to Chester.
 
I'd agree with that comparison- the Elephants have much better paddocks at Whipsnade but much simpler housing than Chester.
 
I'd like to suggest the the Chester elephant exhibit only has human appreciated aesthetics over the one at Whipsnade. The aesthetics in the Chester elephant house make it look more naturalistic but make it difficult to see the elephants clearly at certain times. At Whipsnade the house is a shed with some fake plants in front of a viewing platform but it makes it easy to see what is happening. In terms of paddocks, Whipsnades is bigger and there is natural grazing but the rockwork and waterfalls at Chester make a nicer looking exhibit for the zoo visitor who is looking to be entertained rather than educated.
 
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