Sorry about the late reply Fossa Dude. I had trouble logging in. It is believed that one of the pups was actually the individual that died on 7 September, 1936. The other possibility is an individual caught by Elisa Churchill in 1933. There are proponents of both theories, but I cannot speak authoritatively about the subject.
Species Never Successfully Bred In Zoos
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I'm pretty sure it was a female which arrived at the zoo with four cubs (pouch young?). I don't think any zoo ever actually bred them.(apart from females arriving with young)
It is most likely the last Thylacine at Hobart Zoo was one of the 'Mullins cubs' and another one of them died the previous year(1935) These two are listed in the records as a male(1935) and female (1936) despite popular belief that the last Thylacine was a male.
The Thylacine supposedly caught by Churchill in the Florentine Valley in 1933 was never officially documented as going to the Zoo, and there is no actual evidence this capture took place.
Saro
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Forest Elephants were bred and successfully reared some years ago at Abijan Zoo in Ivory Coast. Unfortunately the entire group died of starvation or disease except for the bull. It should be mentioned that the vast majority of the coral reef fish often found in zoos and private homes have never been bred in captivity and are wild caught.
True up to a point. The vast majority of species are wild-caught. However I suspect that we are approaching the point where the majority of specimens in pet shops are captive bred. Most of the clownfishes on sale in the UK are captive bred, as are virtually all Banggai cardinals and increasing numbers of other species (cardinals and gobies). There is also increasing interest in growing corals from 'frags' (the reefers equivalent of gardeners' cuttings).
Alan
Can you get Banggai cardinals for private collections? Thank you for pointing them out at Chester, they have become a bit of a favourite (never used to pay much attention to the aquarium). If so, are they pricey, and are they difficult to care for/obtain/breed?
RowanGreen
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What about grey whales?
RowanGreen
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I would say the difficulty in keeping even one adult, let alone two, would have something to do with them never having been bred... *g*
Fossa dude
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@Surroundx - sorry I haven't replied in so long. I have been very busy. Thank you for all the info. I am doing a report on Thylacines and your information has helped with a more in depth research on Thylacines in zoos.
Thank you again,
Fossa dude
Thank you again,
Fossa dude
Private people can get Banggai cardinalfish easily. For marine fish they are some of the cheapest, easiest to keep and easiest to breed but marine fish are a different league than freshwater fish. Because of politics and countries trying to safeguard their economic interest the Banggait cardinal is still not on CITES but everybody that care about saving this fish and still want it in their aquarium should ONLY buy captive bred. It is not a big problem to get captive bred Banggai cardinalfish but they are (or used to be) more expensive than the wild caught.
Ahh cool, thank you
. I wasn't planning on getting any soon, but just enquiring for future reference when I have my own place, spare money and the time/room/experience needed for keeping some animals.
Perhaps I ought to explain that I answered Javan Rhino's question in person over lunch at Chester on Saturday.
The point is that Banggai cardinals are unusual among marine fishes because they are mouthbrooders and release their fry at a relatively large size, although only in small numbers. Thus they are almost as easy to raise as freshwater fish fry, feeding with Artemia nauplii etc. Most marine fishes have very tiny fry which live among the plankton, and which need much smaller food. Clownfish and goby fry can eat rotifers as their first food, and these can be cultured fairly reliably now. Many other species have even smaller fry, so advanced aquarists and aquaculturists are trying to develop suitably small but nutritious foods for them.
Alan
The point is that Banggai cardinals are unusual among marine fishes because they are mouthbrooders and release their fry at a relatively large size, although only in small numbers. Thus they are almost as easy to raise as freshwater fish fry, feeding with Artemia nauplii etc. Most marine fishes have very tiny fry which live among the plankton, and which need much smaller food. Clownfish and goby fry can eat rotifers as their first food, and these can be cultured fairly reliably now. Many other species have even smaller fry, so advanced aquarists and aquaculturists are trying to develop suitably small but nutritious foods for them.
Alan