Edinburgh Zoo Edinburgh Zoo news 2011 #1

Shirokuma said:
I agree, very nice. Do we know where they are housed? One of the paddocks up at the top I would assume...
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Yes, one of the ones behind the raven aviary according to the species profile on the zoo website.
 
Another unusual ungulate species for the zoo, a nice addition to the collection and again the only ones in the UK (unless there are some in private hands?)
 
kiang said:
Another unusual ungulate species for the zoo, a nice addition to the collection and again the only ones in the UK (unless there are some in private hands?)
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Not only that, I believe these to be the first of this species in the UK, certainly in my lifetime..;) and I know of no UK zoo that has kept them in the past either, though I am sure ZSL must have had the odd specimen(or more?) in the distant past. I'm sure Tim May(or Robmv?) will know when.:)

I hope that at Edinburgh they have a nice sheltered paddock, not somewhere too open and exposed. In the wild they live in riverine thickets in the Middle East.
 
Pertinax said:
Not only that, I believe these to be the first of this species in the UK, certainly in my lifetime..;) and I know of no UK zoo that has kept them in the past either, though I am sure ZSL must have had the odd specimen(or more?) in the distant past. I'm sure Tim May(or Robmv?) will know when.:)

I hope that at Edinburgh they have a nice sheltered paddock, not somewhere too open and exposed. In the wild they live in riverine thickets in the Middle East.
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Under 'former holdings', Zootierliste lists London (1877-189x and 1908) and also Woburn.
 
Woburn doesn't surprise me, they've had just about every deer species there is at sometime. Any ideas when they kept them(anybody?)

Its quite a bold move of Edinburgh to bring in an obscure species like this, very much an enthusiast's species only, as far as visitors are concerned I think. I'd go to Edinburgh more to see these and the Whitelipped deer than the Giant Pandas!
 
Pertinax said:
I hope that at Edinburgh they have a nice sheltered paddock, not somewhere too open and exposed. In the wild they live in riverine thickets in the Middle East.
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I think the paddock they are in is the former bactrian camel paddock, so they will have the comfort of the former camel house to use.

RZSS now has quite a formidable deer collection at both locations, vying with Woburn as the UK's premier collection with 9 species in all (i think?)
 
kiang said:
RZSS now has quite a formidable deer collection at both locations, vying with Woburn as the UK's premier collection with 9 species in all (i think?)
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And at least three of those unique in Britain, at that.
 
I count 4
Persian fallow deer
Bawean deer
white lipped deer
bactrian wapiti
 
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kiang said:
I count 4
Persian fallow deer
Bawean deer
white lipped deer
bactrian wapiti
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I wasn't counting the Bactrians - Zootierliste lists them at Fife (animals from Highland, though!).
 
Had a chance to look, the Scottish Deer Centre says it has 14 sp including both Bactrian and White-lipped.
 
Pertinax said:
Not only that, I believe these to be the first of this species in the UK, certainly in my lifetime..;)
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The father of a student I taught, about 15 years ago, was a farmer who kept, as well as deer for venison, a herd of Persian fallow deer. This was in East Sussex, somewhere near Eastbourne (Willingdon, I think - which also has a claim to fame as being the location of the farm on which George Orwell based his setting for Animal Farm). I have no idea whether the herd, or any part of it, still remains - nor whether it was studbook registered.
 
Has the work on the refurbishment of the gorilla house for the giant pandas recommenced following the planning application hiccup? also are things still going to plan to have the giant pandas at Edinburgh Zoo in time for the peek summer season? Have any commercial sponsors come forward yet?
 
Just in case anyone was interested

It's been reported on the Belgian thread that Malayan Tapir, Kamal has recently departed Edinburgh for Antwerp
 
Exciting to learn about the Mesopotamian fallow deer; excellent news.

I’ve certainly never seen this form in the UK.

(Incidentally, Flower records that the first London Zoo specimen was a male purchased on 28th May 1877; six were born at London Zoo between 1880 and 1887.)
 
Maguari said:
Highland are still listed with them as well - may just be some spare animals shipped out. :)
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SDC isn't listed as having Bactrian Wapiti on ISIS. Are these the 2.1 survivors from HWP's group, or animals sent to them previously before HWP lost most of their group?
Are the totals different at each place?

Do SDC have only male Whitelipped deer or both sexes?
 
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sooty mangabey said:
was a farmer who kept, as well as deer for venison, a herd of Persian fallow deer. This was in East Sussex, somewhere near Eastbourne .... I have no idea whether the herd, or any part of it, still remains - nor whether it was studbook registered.
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Very interesting. I know that some of the earlier groups in Europe were not pure(I think Kronberg in Germany initially had pure ones then let the buck breed with common fallow) so it would be interesting to know any more details of these e.g. source/purity/ continued existence.
 
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