Chester Zoo Visit to Chester Zoo

beckiv1234

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Just a few notes from yesterday's visit to Chester Zoo.

We arrived at the zoo at 10.00am.
Our first stop were the Asian Elephants. At 10.00am Upali the Dominant male were separated from the rest of the herd but later on in the day the keepers let him out into the herd.
I saw both Komado Dragons (very hard to spot though).
When I first went to the Cheetahs I only saw the 3 brothers inside a hut.
My brother then went back to the Cheetahs and saw the whole herd together.

any questions about the animals at Chester Zoo or the whole Zoo?
 
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It's Sunday so I'm allowed to be pedantic: a group of cheetahs is a coalition not a herd :D I love that - it makes them sound so machiavellian! :)
 
It's Sunday so I'm allowed to be pedantic: a group of cheetahs is a coalition not a herd :D I love that - it makes them sound so machiavellian! :)

Oooo Me too, I now have a mental image of cheetah growing black moustaches, waxing them and twirling them in a Terry Thomas-esque fashion....mwargh mwargh hargh hargh :D
 
Sorry Maz,
I wasn't meant to put herd (about the cheetahs).
Jordan your right- I only saw 2/3 so there was still one that i didn't see.
 
Sorry Maz,
I wasn't meant to put herd (about the cheetahs).
Jordan your right- I only saw 2/3 so there was still one that i didn't see.
Two actually Kinky-tail the other female is/was off-show and has been for sometime Adaze the other female has been on-show for a couple of months now.
 
A coalition of cheetahs did they get together for the benefit of the economy?
 
Ahh there hasn't been any notice on that and as I'm not a Chester regular I did not know my mistake:)
Thats most of the Chester regulars don't post things like the constant moving round of animals like the Cheetah's and Black Rhino's,because if we did we would have a thread of about 15 pages long in less than a couple of months,because of how often the zoo changes which animal is in which enclosure!!
 
2/3?!?! I'm completely bewildered who is talking about komodo dragons, who is talking about cheetahs?!?!
 
Chester Zoo.

I chose this thread to post my review on because Chester Zoo has a lot of threads and I didn't want to start a new one and this one doesn't have a date on the title.

My Thoughts

I am going to make this review as honest as possible and to do that I'll have to start with the opinions I had before visiting. I wanted to dislike it. Simple as that. Chester Zoo, in my mind, has become the Collingwood (sorry to any non-Australians) of the zoo world. It has so many fans that seem to think it can do no wrong. I was hoping to be disappointed so that I could post a review about how high my hopes were and how those hopes were slashed and burned by a zoo that didn't live up to its hype.
I visited today and I have to say that I was disappointed. I don’t get to write a review that belittles a collection that is so loved by so many. It's fantastic! I stayed for the full 6 hours it was open and I was never in search for something to do. The first time I checked my watch was at 3:15 and I realised that I still wanted to see the okapis again, do another lap of Realm of the Red Ape, have one last look at the giant otters, try and get a glimpse of the babirusa, and the list goes on and on. It felt like I was playing a video game and I could see that the timer was going to run out before I could pass every level. I'm a self-confessed, Chester Zoo convert.
One has to wonder if Elephants of the Asian Forest isn't the first stop for absolutely every visitor? It couldn't be closer to the entrance. I can remember when this exhibit was posted on Zoolex and I would have sold a kidney to see it in person. It certainly isn't a bad exhibit. There is really personal viewing in the Eastern (the 'Adventure' Map isn't oriented so I'm just assuming up is North) end of the exhibit, the pool is big, and the house is really interesting. But what really made the exhibit for me was the large, cohesive group of elephants of all different ages. It felt like this is the closest I've come to seeing a real herd of elephants.
Tsavo was my first stop after the elephant exhibit. There are two things I would change about this exhibit. First of all, I would pick the whole thing up and move it closer to the equator. I imagine on a sunny day in the middle of summer it must be an incredible exhibit. Unfortunately I would be surprised if it made it above 10 degrees today and the sun hardly made an appearance. The second thing I didn’t like was the hyrax exhibit. They can’t be very old but both exhibits are smaller than I thought they should have been and they are completely enclosed on all sides. How many black rhinos share the exhibits? I saw two in the rhino house but there are maybe four exhibits so hopefully more rhinos are around to fill up all of the exhibits. I really liked the walk-through aviary in this section. It was similar to the African Bird Safari at London but better. More variety and more space made it a really pleasant aviary. The painted dog exhibit is a great new addition too.
This review is turning into quite the saga. I won’t include every exhibit or else I (and you) will be here for ages. I’ll just go through my highlights. The next area I went to in the hope of catching its star attractions early in the day was the cloud forest area. I only saw the coatis perched on the tops of some massive poles at the back of the main exhibit the first, second, third and fourth times I retraced my steps through this beautiful area. Is it fifth time lucky with spectacled bears because that did the trick? I walked up from past the tapirs and saw a small crowd gathered around the exhibit and I practically charged my way up to the fence, throwing prams and elderly people aside, so that I could get even a fleeting glimpse of my fifth bear species (coincidence?). I was so terrified that this would only be a brief sighting I went photo mad. Anyway the bear put on quite a show and as the crowd moved away I had the whole exhibit to myself for about 20 minutes as it made its way around the whole exhibit doing bear-y things. When it decided that behind the hill was the best place to stay I moved along to the second part of the exhibit and the other bear (this one’s markings were less obvious. They were more like a Y between its eyes) was having a bit of fun too. My perseverance paid off. Chester Zoo could have a really world class South American section if it was possible to consolidate some of their fantastic exhibits into one area. It’s a shame that the jaguars, condors, giant otters, bush dogs, and a few others couldn’t be further apart. That does bring up one of the biggest highlights of the day (maybe even my life). Why has there never been a massive push for giant otters until the last few years? These are surely one of the best display species ever. Imagine if Chester Zoo’s pair can expand into a medium-sized family group. The exhibit is certainly big enough. What made it even better was that I happened to be passing by as a keeper walked up and threw them a couple of fish each.
Realm of the Red Ape is the only area that didn’t quite live up to my expectations. I’m sure it’s a good home for the apes that call it home but boy is it ugly and the netted outdoor exhibits feel really enclosed. Out of the two great ape exhibits I much preferred the chimpanzee island to ROTRA. For the most part it’s cosmetic things like the gigantic concrete trees that dominate the indoor areas and the repetitiveness of all of those vertical ropes. The big outdoor exhibits look really good but I only saw two lar gibbons sitting in the corner of one of them all day.
Some of the other species highlights from a zoo that more than manages to live up to any expectations include two new species of crane (and fifth spoonbill), my first red river hogs, bush dogs, gemsbok, three new species of deer (brow-antlered, Philippine spotted and chilean pudu), quite a few new antelopes and an unforgettable collection of hornbills (and a bird of paradise species too). I did get to see an okapi for the first time :) They have been one of my favourite species for a long time. But two species eluded me were the babirusa and giant anteaters (I’ve still not seen one). So that’s my thoughts about Chester Zoo.

Edit:I almost forgot the worst part of my day. The gift shop was sold out of guide books. How can a zoo sell out of guidebooks? This means that I have a massive favour to ask anyone who is willing to help me out. I don't think I'll be going back while I'm here so if there is anyone who visits regularly and is willing to get one. I'll pay you back somehow (internet banking?) I realise that it is a very weird request from a stranger.
 
. . . I visited today and I have to say that I was disappointed. I don’t get to write a review that belittles a collection that is so loved by so many. It's fantastic! . . .

I'm glad you enjoyed your visit and thank you for reminding those of us who live near Chester how very lucky we are.
Don't be too upset that you didn't see the babirusa or the anteaters, neither species is exactly reliable for viewing and I haven't seen them recently either. You did very well to see virtually everything else.
On Sunday, several ZooChat members congregated at the hyrax enclosure, which is the zoo's newest, and we were as critical of it as you are. At the moment I don't think the hyrax like it either, so perhaps it will need modification. Moving the Tsavo complex will be harder ;), but you're right that it does look much better on a sunny day.
I agree that RotRA does not look very beautiful at the moment. The plants have suffered a lot this year, the outdoor covered enclosures are not lovely and the fake trees and webbing strips are ugly. You only see the point when the orangs are climbing around; all the space is accessible and the babies use it all at high speed, the adult Sumatran females swing up to the windows to meet the public and even old Martha, who is rather stiff now, regularly climbs up to the top of the wire in the outdoor exhibit.
I'm not a guide book fan, so I can't help you with that problem. I hope someone else can.

Alan
 
Edit:I almost forgot the worst part of my day. The gift shop was sold out of guide books. How can a zoo sell out of guidebooks? This means that I have a massive favour to ask anyone who is willing to help me out. I don't think I'll be going back while I'm here so if there is anyone who visits regularly and is willing to get one. I'll pay you back somehow (internet banking?) I realise that it is a very weird request from a stranger.

Excellent review - I agree that RoRA is not the prettiest orang enclosure I've ever seen, but it is certainly the one that is the most practical and for all of the ugliness, it makes for some interesting orangs (the netting/wire, while it looks like a cage, it gives the orangs a chance to climb around the entire thing. The netted enclosures also allow for scatter feeds, meaning the orangs have to 'forage in the canopy').

You've been lucky to see almost everything, including some hit or miss species. I haven't seen the anteater in the new enclosure yet either.

If I could change Tsavo, it would be to later add vivariums where possible as and when funds allow. They are moving towards geographical theming, but Tsavo is too much dominated by mammals and birds (even though I like hoofstock :p). It really needs to capture the ecosystem with lizards, snakes, amphibians and insects of Kenya if it is to be a world class exhibit.

Chester haven't made a new guidebook since 2008, and that is likely why it isn't available any more in the gift shop as it is fairly outdated now. As it happens, I have a spare copy of the guidebook that I can send over if you wish? If you want to sort something out send me a quick PM and I'll see what I can do :)
 
I agree that RoRA is not the prettiest orang enclosure I've ever seen, but it is certainly the one that is the most practical and for all of the ugliness, it makes for some interesting orangs (the netting/wire, while it looks like a cage, it gives the orangs a chance to climb around the entire thing.

It is very,very, very, difficult to provide decent Orangutan accomodation that is both really suitable for the animals and attractive at the same time. The nature of the animals, their almost exclusively arboreal behaviour-in the wild -and their strength/destructiveness and cunning all combine to work against providing really attractive exhibits for them in zoos.

I've only seen ROTRA once but agree it isn't terribly attractive, but they have endeavoured to put the animals' needs first, - the webbing for climbing in the indoor areas is particularly suited for the animals' swinging behaviour.

The only better/more effective alternative I think is what Paignton have- an almost completely natural outdoor island with sufficient mature trees for the Orangutans to climb up high and use without damaging them very much. But then again, look at Paignton's indoor accomodation (where the animals spend a lot of their time) its very ordinary (ropes and poles only) by comparison with the Chester set-up.
 
ROTRA definitely has a grim look about it, I was surprised recently to find a picture of Puluh that I took a couple of years ago and realise that there was planting inside where there is nothing now! I don't think the grey colour helps although it's hard to think of a sensible alternative.

However as others have said it is wonderful to watch the orangutans moving around using the webbing, they are so graceful, strong and thoughtful in the way they select the next strap to use to take them where they want to go. I don't think you can appreciate orangutans until you see them brachiating because they kind of fold up small when they are on the floor. I like the way the females rig up their 'window seats' - because they CHOOSE to people watch and it's amusing the way they put loads of the straps into the hammocks for some reason.

It 'feels' much nicer when you are inside than it looks from the outside. The Sumatrans definitely have the best of the bargain though, I hope the Borneans 'inherit' if the Sumatrans move to Islands.

It's a shame you were out of luck and didn't see them outside because Puluh up on high, surveying the zoo, with his long red hair blowing in the wind is a lovely sight!
 
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Realm of the Red Ape was definitely entertaining. They seem to have quite a few young orang-utans as well so they were really showing off what can be done with so much climbing equipment. One young one was swinging back and forth and was only holding on with one foot until it let go and went flying to the ground. Everyone gasped but it just bounced along the ground and raced straight back up the ropes.
 
ROTRA definitely has a grim look about it, I was surprised recently to find a picture of Puluh that I took a couple of years ago and realise that there was planting inside where there is nothing now! I don't think the grey colour helps although it's hard to think of a sensible alternative.

Maybe they have given up trying to keep plants with them? When I saw it the inside areas were planted -but everything had been torn up by the Orangutans.

Perhaps its more reminiscent of the old house now?- that was certainly grim-looking- at least the indoors was.
 
Perhaps its more reminiscent of the old house now?
The old house was quite heavily planted, both along the back wall and the tops of the dividing walls, all out of reach of the destructive orangs. Aside from the style of climbing frames and the soft substrate, RotRA isn't any prettier.
 
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