The 2 females are mother and daughter and the new male is from Twycross. Don't think there is another male so he must have left?
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The 2 females are mother and daughter and the new male is from Twycross. Don't think there is another male so he must have left?
For comparison, here's Lodz's sea lion pool in 2008. Just as a reminder, the animal is being moved amid claims the exhibit is substandard. And it's going here.
(for the record, there's a lot of good stuff at Lodz. Just not this)
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Mr T
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It is good that Edinburgh appreciate that his current enclosure is no longer suitable for him, but surely it is their responsibility to make sure he is going to a better facility. This unfortunately does not seem to be the case.
I'm not sure without checking how Patagonian Sea Lion moves are regulated - it may be this is a studbook recommended move and the choice of destination is nothing to do with Edinburgh. It may also be that Lodz is the only place with capacity to take the animal.
It just bothers me that Edinburgh might have been pressured into making a move simply to save face that doesn't necessarily benefit the animal - it just further emphasises the impossible position they are in with regards to publicity/press at the moment.
Some (no number given) of Edinburgh's Gentoo Penguins will shortly be making the trip to Calgary, Canada
Scottish penguins getting ready to take the Calgary Plunge
Scottish penguins getting ready to take the Calgary Plunge
Mr T
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I hadn't thought of it like that. Hopefully if he goes there, it won't be for too long or that they build a new enclosure.
Thankyou. That seemed to be the obvious move for the Twycross male. Though I was told in the past at Twycross that he was tested and believed infertile- however I would take that result with a pinch of salt as a change of partners can sometimes produce positive results. Also with only 20 Hamlyn's in Europe there is very little choice of availabity in finding a new male.
Edinburgh is now the last zoo in the UK with this species and I hope they can do something to resurrect them.
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In the photos the pool at Lodz then looked unused as its covered in duckweed. Maybe improvements have been made since. Its a pity this male isn't going to Colchester. It seems the obvious place.
I suspect you are right that the decision doesn't rest(entirely)with Edinburgh and the placement may be the only available one. Also most Zoos do tend to have an 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude regarding animals that needing rehoming. Once shifted, the problem is no longer theirs.
Yes, it's important to note those are 2008 photos and a lot could have changed since then.
Without knowing all the animals' histories, I'd have thought Colchester was a good bet too, but ho-hum.
Jordan-Jaguar97
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The other place for Sofus would have been to Colchester, yes of course it would with them currently holding an all female group of five, it would be have been the biggest group currently in the UK. Lodz (Supposedly) have two females at present with the other zoo in Poland at the moment is Krakow and they already have a male.
Other news is that Tian Tian should be in season around Valentine's day- the perfect way to hopefully get some cubs
Pandas Sweetie and Sunshine get flirty at Edinburgh Zoo - mirror.co.uk
Other news is that Tian Tian should be in season around Valentine's day- the perfect way to hopefully get some cubs
Pandas Sweetie and Sunshine get flirty at Edinburgh Zoo - mirror.co.uk
The updated map I was given when I visited today was much better.
1) The younger male is still at the zoo, but is planned to be moved elsewhere.
2) Having asked one of the keepers, I can confirm the new male is the ex-Twycross male who left said collection about a fortnight ago.
The aforementioned keeper was surprised to hear Edinburgh is now the only location to keep Hamlyn's in the UK, but said they are quietly hopeful about the prospect of breeding from the new male. So you could be right re: his having been re-tested.
I suspect you are right that the decision doesn't rest(entirely)with Edinburgh and the placement may be the only available one. Also most Zoos do tend to have an 'out of sight, out of mind' attitude regarding animals that needing rehoming. Once shifted, the problem is no longer theirs.
I wonder how the feral Night Herons will cope with no longer having the sea lion enclosure to steal food from
having observed at close range a number of the herons today, I can confirm the feral population at Edinburgh is not only extant but still plural!Other things I observed and learnt today:
1) As far as I could learn, the fallow deer are still at Edinburgh.
2) The baby hippo is doing well and seems healthy, even wandering away from her mother a little bit!
3) The binturong have indeed moved to a new enclosure - this means there are three vacant enclosures in a row on "Carnivore Row", two of which appear to have undergone some level of re-planting. This may herald new developments.
4) Ipoh the golden cat appears to have recovered well from his operation, and is now bald on one side as a result of having had a shave for the aforesaid.
If it hasn't already been mentioned, they've moved to the corner enclosure between the Visayan warty pigs and the bongos, across from the Grasslands Restaurant. They'd already moved there in the week before Christmas when I last visited.
It's an interesting spot for a rather obscure reason: the local badger population use the pathway around the enclosure as a latrine.
Dibatag
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I had a suspicion they would be coming from Edinburgh. Now I just need to figure out where the rest of them are coming from.
Hamlyn's Owl faced Monkeys- Edinburgh have done well with them in the past, at one stage they had five or six, nearly all bred there. The new male(his name is Argus) is quite a nervous animal but I think Edinburgh's environment might be more suitable and less stressful for him/them- the house is quieter than Twycross without so many noisy neighbours.
Persian Fallow Deer-do you know if they are staying at Edinburgh permanently-or are they being quarantined for somewhere else?
I wonder how the feral Night Herons will cope with no longer having the sea lion enclosure to steal food from
That sounds like the pool won't be there any more- do you know what plans there are for it when the Sealion goes. Filled in? Or used for some other aquatic species?
Haven't a clue - my comment was more directed towards the fact that no matter what happens, there wouldn't be regular feeds happening there at least for a while. Meant to ask after the sealion talk, but the keepers made no reference to Sofus leaving so I wasn't sure if his departure has been officially made public yet.
If the pool was filled in, obviously that would mean no more feeds and no more water either. And even if another aquatic species eventually arrived, the enclosure would be empty a while - so no feeds.
I see what you mean. We'll have to wait and see what they plan for this area.
Personally I'd quite like a more unusual species of otter - for instance Smooth-coated otter or Spotted-necked. Of course, if Edinburgh wanted to *really* please me they would get Baikal seals, or something really unexpected (but probably impossible to source) like an Otter Civet.
None of the above are at all likely of course.
None of the above are at all likely of course.