Dutch Zoos -Information Needed (Please)

Right, here's the reviews of the additional zoos I've visited so far.

Best Zoo/Wissell Zoo
I'll discuss these both at the same time as they are similar sizes and have a lot of factors in common. They are obviously never going to compete with the larger zoos of the world but visiting them is still worthwhile. There are a number of small zoos in the UK which are similar in size/scope and I would say that these Dutch zoos do it better. Like similar sized UK zoos the enclosures are not as grand as at larger zoos but seem generally adequate and were well furnished -all the animals were in very good condition. The factors that make them better are the well designed "one fairly circular route sees everything" layout and the visitor facilities (cafe/toilets) which often appear to be a late afterthought for most similar sized UK zoos. They were both very well landscaped and planted which again is the exception rather than the norm in most UK smaller zoos. Animal-wise the highlights were the Wallaroos at Best (a number of other rare species listed on zootierliste were unfortunately absent) and the Crab Eating Raccoons (amazing) and Agile Mangabeys at Wissel. My wife was also particularly enchanted by the mice on display near the entrance at Best -those "living" and eating inside a loaf of bread were fantastically whimsical. Of the two zoos I would say that Wissel was better as it was overall more pretty (more wood, less metal and better landscaped with the use of water) and didn't really have any enclosures I would call inadequate (Best's enclosures for the Yellow Throated Martins (beautiful creatures) and Lynx seemed a little on the small side to me -then again I won't condemn too much as I do not know the history of, or plans for, the animals). Also Best's enclsoure for the Binturong (which, given it's quite small, I assume/hope is only temporary) is both innovative and bizarre.

Owl De Paay
Talking of bizarre, that's the one word I would use to describe (though not necessarily condemn) Owl De Paay. Bizarre points awarded for the following:

1. Inconsistent quality of labelling (some comprehensive, other rudimentary or absent);
2. Apart from a nice collection of owls (particularly various Eagle Owls) there's no real logic to collection of animals, here's a Corsac Fox, there's a Kea, there's some Red River Hogs. It seems the collection has grown by obtaining what's available at any given time rather than through any plan or focus. Similarly the layout was a bit illogical and you felt like you were wandering around lost on someones private land on a number of occassions;
3. Strange mixing of animals (Porcupines and chickens? Wallaby Walkthrough with more birds than Wallabies);
4. Guinea Pigs fed to Snowy Owls was something I'd never seen before;
5. Reptile House on stilts;
6. A very large inflatable device in the pond in the goat enclosure;
7. The "paddock spectacle" (more later).

Whilst the enclosures for birds were generally adequate (and similar sizes to a lot of UK places) the enclosures for mammals were more at the "just/barely adequate" level and some were, in my opinion, too small. Efforts had largely been made to furnish the enclosures to a reasonable level and I rather liked the (seemingly newer) Binturong enclosure which was well done. As at everwhere (zoos & otherwise) I've visited in The Netherlands staff were friendly and the "language barrier" was virtually non-existent -it was through asking one of the staff that I got to see my first Greater Grisson (the prime reason for my visit) which was hidden away in an area that I wasn't sure I was allowed to walk along.

Finally to the "paddock spectacle", the most bizarre (and frankly hilarious) sight I've seen at a zoo. Imagine the following animals mixed together in a small paddock: albino Peacock, family of Cows, young bull, three Donkeys, a few Sheep, Great Dane Dog, huge Shire Horse and a Bactrian Camel. Then imagine selctions of all them (except the Camel) running around the paddock at high speed, sometimes with keepers in tow, to no obvious purpose. The punch-line, for myself and my wife, was when one of the Donkeys started running up and down the paddock braying loudly -we were doubled up laughing (almost crying) at this point. If the keepers had been dressed as clowns the spectacle would have been more complete but no more bizarre. When I looked accross to the nearby road a large group of cyclists had stopped to witness the spectacle. Bizarre happening, bizarre place.

Apenheul
One word, wow! The whole place was near perfect: great selection of animals behaving naturally in good-sized groups, breathtaking large and good enclosures, large number of free-ranging/no barrier species, fantastic educational signs and displays (particularly liked the "early men" in the Bonobo enclosure), Sifakas, Proboscis Monkeys!!!!!

The place is so impressive and the setting within an existing park is beautiful. It's the only place, except Howletts/Port Lypmne, where I've seen a large group of Gorillas acting naturally and (although I love and will always defend the Aspinall collections) the setting here is so much better. The whole group coming over the hill to the ampitheatre for feeding was genguinely awe-inspiring.

If there's a better place for the display of primates in Europe I've not heard about it and I'd want to visit it (personally I can't imagine it can/will be bettered). Totally, totally, recommended. Even if you're not a "primate person" I think this place would impress.

Finally, there's a place in the UK not far from where I live, who's name shall not be mentioned (it doesn't deserve to be mentioned in the same post as Apenhuel), which bills itself as "The World Primate Centre". If any of them ever visited Apenhuel they should/would be ashamed of themselves. Displaying a large number of primates (debatably) averagely is no match to displaying a smaller number spectacularly well -in my experience (whilst there may be better in the USA) Apenhuel truely "The World Primate Centre".
 
I really like your reviews :), it's really nice to read about places that you regularly visit.

De Paay is actually someones backyard, which is now totally covered with zoo. It indeed is a very strange zoo, but I actually like the atmosphere. Did you manage to see the lesser mara's in one of the parrot aviaries?

Apenheul is indeed amazing and getting better every year, did you see the red howlers and douroucouli's or were they both still kept behind the scenes?
 
Glad you liked Apenheul :)

Agreed with lintworm, highly entertaining to read, curious about your reactions on Burgers :)

Which animals did you miss at Best? The paca's fell ill, one died and one is recovering behind the scenes. The lesser bamboo lemurs left the zoo for "a zoo in France" (haven't found out which one yet).

I haven't been to De Paay, Best or NOP myself, so also fun to read those comments. Did you get to see the narrow-striped mongoose and the tree-roo at Wissel?

Keep it coming!
 
Did you manage to see the lesser mara's in one of the parrot aviaries?

Apenheul is indeed amazing and getting better every year, did you see the red howlers and douroucouli's or were they both still kept behind the scenes?

Unfortunately we didn't manage to see the Lesser Mara's -they weren't labelled (although neither was the Greater Grisson, thinking about it I should have asked:)) and I assumed they'd left the collection.

Neither the Douricoulis or Red Howlers were on display at Apenhuel (both fantastic additions I must say, especially the Howlers). Although I am lucky enough to have seen both before (the Howlers at Cologne in 2010) I'm beginning to think, "you haven't seen a primate properly until you've seen it at Apenhuel":).
 
Glad you liked Apenheul :)

Liked? I loved!:D

Which animals did you miss at Best?

Paca obviously (which I have been lucky enough to have seen elsewhere a couple of times before) and Chacoan Mara & Saddle-back Tamarin (which I haven't:().

Did you get to see the narrow-striped mongoose and the tree-roo at Wissel?
Keep it coming!

I did get to see the Tree Kangaroo (always a pleasure, one of those animals I never get tired of) but not the Narrow-striped Mongoose (not labelled anywhere, I wondered if they'd been kept in the enclosure holding Corsac Fox?).
 
@Shorts, I think you mean the fennecs in stead of corsacs. But I think that the narrow-striped mongoose are behind the scenes or have already moved to Overloon, which I believe was planned....

There are even more additions in the Apenheul to come this year, so you visited a bit to early :p
 
@Shorts, I think you mean the fennecs in stead of corsacs. But I think that the narrow-striped mongoose are behind the scenes or have already moved to Overloon, which I believe was planned....

There are even more additions in the Apenheul to come this year, so you visited a bit to early :p

I'm sure they were Corsac Foxes, though to be fair it/they were rolled up in a log. I've just checked by photo of the enclosure and, although it is indistinct, the label's silhouette looks more Corsac than Fennec. Let me know, with your conclusion, next time you visit:)?

What additions are planned for Apenheul? Having visited Germany in July a couple of years ago when the temperatures were 36 degrees each day I wanted to avoid any chance of a repeat this year, so "too early" it was:D.
 
What was it like?

A raised (to head height) sleeping box (about the size of three or four tea chests) from which led a "plank" to a pole with a raised platform on it. Raised platform at approximately four or five metres. This platform had another plank leading to another pole and platform, about eight metres away and was next to a tall thin, sparse, tree (which the Binturong was sleeping at the top of). Beneath each platform, and around the tree, were "hot wires" preventing the animal from reaching the ground.

The concept is great in theory (animal given freedom to climb above your heads) but was let down by the small area covered and the overall sparseness of the climbing opportunities (basically up a plank then either up a tree or short wander to second platfrom).
 
I am 99% sure it are fennec foxes, because this species arrived last year in Wissel and they just brought in a male so they can breed and I don't believe they switched to another species in a few months ;)
 
I am 99% sure it are fennec foxes, because this species arrived last year in Wissel and they just brought in a male so they can breed and I don't believe they switched to another species in a few months ;)

Fair enough, I'll take your local knowledge over my (currently) sensory overloaded memory:).
 
Further reviews, as promised:

Harderwijk
Given this type of establishment doesn't exist in the UK and hardly exists on the same scale as the rest of Europe I'm very unlikely to be critical given the opportunity it gave me to see species I've no chance of seeing nearer home.

The place was surprisingly busy for a week day in April and I noticed a number of cars from at least three non-Dutch countries in the car park -obviously, for anyone prepared to take the financial risks, "dolphinariums" are popular and financially viable. That said, I wouldn't want to visit the place in "high season" when I'd imagine it would be a hellish experience.

To me the place has a "Disney vibe" about it, with all the advantages (very slickly operated, catering good) and disadvanges (a little too much commerciality and tackiness in parts) that brings but overall I couldn't fault the place.

The enclosures are all pretty good and nicely landscaped/presented (with possible exception of the Stellar's Sea Lion which looked a little small) but it was fantastic to have the opportunity to sea Dolphins, Harbour Porpoise (how cute!), Walrus (six of!) and Stellar's Sea Lions (how big?). The Seal enclosures, in particular, were especially well landscaped. The Walrus "show" was brilliant and I really liked the Disneyesque indoor Dolphin show (quite unique, mixing "art" and Dolphins, in my experience). The ability to enjoy a drink and/or snack whilst vieiwng the Dolphins and Walruses underwater was also most welcome.

On entering I though the entrance fee was a little high but on leaving, several hours later (you can spend a great lazy day here), I thought it was great value for money given what I had experienced.

The only real downside was that the quality of labelling and information given was almost non-existent and by far the poorest I've experienced at a Dutch zoo.

Coming soon (once my over-stimulated brain has calmed down and my energy levels have lifted up), my review of Burgers (yes, I enjoyed it:D) and conclusions of my experiences of Dutch zoos.
 
The dolfinarium isn't my favorite place in Holland, but I could spend a whole day watching the walrusses under water. It's the main (almost only) reason i go there. I guess you are happy we told you not to go in a weekend? ;)

And afaik i'm missing reviews of Ouwehands and NOP, so you're not done just yet!

Thanks anyways, sounds like you're having a helluva trip :)
 
The dolfinarium isn't my favorite place in Holland, but I could spend a whole day watching the walrusses under water. It's the main (almost only) reason i go there.

Absolutely, they're absolutely captivating and the whistle sound (at least one of them makes) is amazing.

I guess you are happy we told you not to go in a weekend? ;)

Very, very. Thank you, thank you.

And afaik i'm missing reviews of Ouwehands and NOP, so you're not done just yet)

Sorry to disappoint but Ouwehands was only ever on the reserve list and NOP proved a "zoo to far" (sorry I've been staying in Arnhem and couldn't resist the, possibly poor taste, pun) due to my own and my wife's physical and mental energy levels (i.e. we were too tired).

Thanks anyways, sounds like you're having a helluva trip :)

Absolutely, I don't catch the ferry back until tomorrow and, in my mind, I'm already planning my next trip to The Netherlands.
 
Burger's Zoo
A-maz-ing! And here's why (in the order I remember them, rather than in any order of priority):

1. The labelling (although a little lacking in the Bush) was fantastic. Great illustrations, extensive information (I learnt quite a lot) and in four languages;
2. The high quality of pretty much all the exhibits and "biomes". Theoretically these biomes (e.g. Bush -big glasshouse, well planted and landscaped, with a number of satellite exhibits and free flying birds) are simple in concept but there's so much that can go wrong between idea and realisation. At Burger's they seem to have got it all right;
3. The little touches that add to the prefection, e.g. the view from the windows in front of the men's urinals that gives a great view of the bush, the Tapir hand dryers to heat your camera lens up and prevent steaming, the mini water gullies in Desert;
4. Safari is the best "African plains" exhibit I've ever seen. Great landscaping and viewpoints, good mix of species, large numbers of all species (except Hartebeest). It was also nice to see a large group of African Lions closeby, something not often seen outside safari parks, though I'm not sure the Cheetahs enjoy them as neighbours:).
5. So many new species for me to see: Hartebeest, Bobcat, Manatee, Big Horn Sheep, Ring Tail, Ringed Seal, Red Duiker, African Darters, Australian Thick Knee, Australian Brush Turkey, and on and on;
6. Loved the mixed species displays. Sun Bear & Binturong, Rimba island mix, Safari (as already mentioned) and Bongo & Duiker (the size comparison is intense);
7. Got to see a large silverback-led group of Gorillas being Gorillas (in a great exhibit) for the second time in a week;
8. Loved at the start of Ocean that you could see the surface as well as underwater (nice effect). The "living reef" was also most impressive;
9. And on and on with superlative after superlative. I could come up with a few little criticisms if pushed but it would be churlish when the overall experience is so good.

Summary
I wouldn't want to pick between Burger's and Rotterdam in terms of which was "best", as they both have different strengths....... Oh go on then, if I have to choose I think Burgers's just edges ahead of Rotterdam due having a pretty universal collection of fantastic looking exhibits (though I reserve my right to change my mind backwards and forwards over the near future). While I'm not that well travelled in European zoos (yet:D) and it would be unfair to compare with the rest of Europe without a little more extensive visiting (give me time:)) I can assert that both Burger's and Rotterdam are considerably ahead of the best the UK has to offer (though, without being jingoistic, UK zoos still have a lot of strengths and a lot to offer).

Apenhuel and Harderwijk both offer something that (unforthunately) the UK does not have. Namely world class primate displays and the opportunity to see ceteceans and (very) large pinnipeds.

I would say that the two small zoos I visited (Best and Wissel, I'll leave Owl de Paay out here) seem to be that little bit slicker, in terms of display, presentation and service, than UK zoos of a similar size.

Unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity to check out the more medium size zoos (say Ouwehands, Amersfoort, Emmen) to assess and compare them but I do, now, have the strong desire to do so as soon as I am able (possibly next year, or 2014 at the latest).

In summary, from the small sample of zoos I've visited in The Netherlands, I'd say the Dutch are very lucky with the quality of zoos they have. I once read somewhere that "The Netherlands has the best looking zoos in Europe" and compared with the UK zoos and handful of German zoos I've previously visited I can only completely agree with that statement.

I would recommend that any UK zoo enthusiasts who haven't previously made the effort to visit Dutch zoos should do so if they're able, they won't be disappointed.

Final tips and points for those considering following in my footsteps:

1. The Netherlands is a great country and the Dutch are lovely people. Everyone I met was friendly and helpful and language is not really a barrier (many have said the Dutch speak the best English in Europe, I didn't encounter anything to disprove that). To be honest, you begin to take it for granted that you'll be able to speak English and people will understand and respond in English, which seems a little presumptuous and arrogant, but thankfully, delightfully, almost always true. "Excuse me" and "dank you" gets you a long way;
2. Consider staying at Jansbeek, in Arnhem, as your base. Great accomodation, lovely hosts and a breakfast that will set you up for a long day's zoo visiting. If you consider it a little expensive, trust me, it's worth the extra and you "truly get what you pay for";
3. If you like drinking tea bring your own "milk capsules" (stock pile from restraunts the weeks before coming). As a nation (sorry for generalisation) they seem to like all teas, including the fruit ones but don't take traditional teas with milk. The only "milk" available (at zoos and cafes) is often cream for coffee which doesn't really work:).

Hope you've enjoyed reading. Sorry if I rambled and bored you, but you could have stopped reading.

Peace, out.

Apologies in advance to Zoogirraffe and others who know me as I'll probably rant and repeat all of this thread when I speak to them next.
 
Thanks a bunch :) finally someone that agrees and likes Burgers' over Rotterdam! On the dutch forum I'm always fighting a loosing battle on that front :)

Good to see you enjoyed our country. Also good to hear some of us are still friendly. It's rediculous that every time you go to another country (whichever it is) you find yourself surprised at how friendly everyone is (at least I always feel that way). Maybe the world isn't as bad as the media seems to make it look like...

Anyways, come back any time! Mind that Emmen, Artis, Ouwehands and Emmen are also highly worth a visit. Shame you didn't get to make it to NOP, as they're planning to move the complete park as well. So come back soon if you still want to see NOP and Emmen!
 
Glad you liked it :) and there is so much more to see in the Netherlands with zoos as Artis, Emmen, Gaiazoo, Safaripark beekse bergen (which offers much more than a safari) etc....

@Jwer, you're not the only one loosing that battle ;).
 
Thanks a bunch :) finally someone that agrees and likes Burgers' over Rotterdam! On the dutch forum I'm always fighting a loosing battle on that front :)

It's a very, very close run competition and, to be fair, Rotterdam does better than Burger's in some areas -at the end of the day it comes down to personal choice (how much importance one gives to a large herp collection or whether one likes the great apes, etc.) and, for me, the excellence of the displays as Burger's won the comparison.

Good to see you enjoyed our country. Also good to hear some of us are still friendly. It's rediculous that every time you go to another country (whichever it is) you find yourself surprised at how friendly everyone is (at least I always feel that way). Maybe the world isn't as bad as the media seems to make it look like...

True that, the world (in general) is never as bad as the media sells it -"most things went well today" is not a news headline (people would stop watching):). Personally, I like to think there's some karma in action (in the friendlyness we receive) and we're both good people:).

Anyways, come back any time! Mind that Emmen, Artis, Ouwehands and Emmen are also highly worth a visit. Shame you didn't get to make it to NOP, as they're planning to move the complete park as well. So come back soon if you still want to see NOP and Emmen!

Don't worry, I'll be back. I want to visit NOP, Emmen, Ouwehands, Amersfoort, Beekes Bergen, some of the places I've already visited (again) and Serpo (that was in Delft) if it re-establishes itself. Oh dear, it's looking like two trips already -I think I'll bear the pain:D.
 
If you stayed in the arnhem region, you could have visited emmen btw. It is not much further then rotterdam and amsterdam if you travel from arnhem. Burgers is a great zoo, better then blijdorp. The animals have lots of space here, and attractions like the desert and bush are by far superior then anything blijdorp has to offer. Allthough blijdorp is a great zoo, it's a bit overrated.

But I wonder, did you walk through the safari with your eyes closed? Because it's really spacious, and for it's inhabitants an excellent exhibit, that's true, but the landscaping is rubbish. If you look at the large panorama terrace, it looks great, if you look the other way, you see piles of rubble. That has always puzzled me, why did burgers pay so much attention to the terrace, making it look great, but no attention to the view you have from here?

Thanks for the compliments about us. Like jwer already said, the media always gives us the idea we are very impolite in comparison to other nationalities. But from what i have seen in other countries, it's not that bad. Off course there are some differences, but that goes for all countries. For example, germans often adress people in their own language when they're abroad. And in a country like spain, that depends on tourism, it's very hard to find people who speak english, even on tourist busses, or fast food restaurants, where you would expect people to speak at least a little bit english. My point is, you can say something negative about all nationalities, but when it comes to it, people are all alike.
 
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