Species on the brink of disappearing from U.K Collections

johnstoni said:
Two male Black Mangabeys appear to have arrived at Cefn yr Ewr, along with a Japanese macaque.
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These are both pretty rare species in the Uk so I wonder where they might have come from?

At one stage in the 1980/90's Bristol & Colchester(anywhere else?) both had groups of Black Mangabeys but they disappeared from those zoos a long while ago now. Maybe these males are the last survivors?
 
arabian oryx, where did the ones from london go when they built into africa?
 
Tigerlemurguy said:
arabian oryx, where did the ones from london go when they built into africa?
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Whipsnade.

Does Blackpool still have Arabian Oryx?

EDIT: ISIS says not, and they don't have yak anymore. They do have Bongo now though, I'm guessing there's been some changes.
 
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Pertinax said:
These are both pretty rare species in the Uk so I wonder where they might have come from?

At one stage in the 1980/90's Bristol & Colchester(anywhere else?) both had groups of Black Mangabeys but they disappeared from those zoos a long while ago now. Maybe these males are the last survivors?
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These latest animals came from private hands in europe. The site has the story on them.

How is this sanctuary licensed? I don't doubt the care that goes into looking after these animals, certainly some of the macaques and baboons came from a former pitiful existence abroad in tiny cages, but some of their lemurs and monkeys from zoos that closed down seem to be a little worse off in terms of accommodation. It's probably just a matter of money, but some of those animals would definitely be better off in large zoo enclosures. The arrival of a Japanese macaque makes me think of the amazing enclosure in Scotland, but there will be no chance the sanctuary would ever consider sending it there. Strange as surely to be integrated into a large group of its own kind in a huge enclosure would actually be the best deal in welfare terms. It doesn't seem kind to just keep everything you rescue in whatever groups/enclosures you can cobble together....
 
^Chris^ said:
Whipsnade.

Does Blackpool still have Arabian Oryx?

EDIT: ISIS says not, and they don't have yak anymore. They do have Bongo now though, I'm guessing there's been some changes.
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As mentioned elsewhere on this forum, Folly Farm in Wales now have the oryx from Blackpool. I think it is now just Folly Farm, Whipsnade and Marwell with Arabian oryx now.
 
this doesnt answer my question, what happened to the ones at london zoo when they moved?
 
CZJimmy said:
Chris already said, but they moved to Whipsnade.

They're opposite the hippos, near to the Lions if i recall correctly...
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No. I think you're referring to Scimitar-horned oryx...They(Arabian Oryx) share part of the antelope house used by the Bongo- this house is adjacent to the road not far from the 'viewpoint cafe' or between the wolves and the White rhinos. When I saw them they had stalls and hardstanding area only.
 
johnstoni said:
As mentioned elsewhere on this forum, Folly Farm in Wales now have the oryx from Blackpool. I think it is now just Folly Farm, Whipsnade and Marwell with Arabian oryx now.
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Amazing. A previously highly- endangered species and emblem of the FFPS- now living at a 'farmpark' in the welsh countryside. How times have changed!!
 
Pertinax said:
No. I think you're referring to Scimitar-horned oryx...They(Arabian Oryx) share part of the antelope house used by the Bongo- this house is adjacent to the road not far from the 'viewpoint cafe' or between the wolves and the White rhinos. When I saw them they had stalls and hardstanding area only.
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That's where I saw them earlier this year but a couple of weeks ago they were on the strange paddock on the right as you enter the Asian drive-through (behind the Cheetahs). The Nile Lechwe that were in that paddock had been moved 'forward' to the paddock next to the Cheetahs on the main road.

I think the oryx are another ZSL species with separate summer/winter housing; Sitatunga and Red River Hog had also both moved from sharing another species' house to their own paddock between my two visits.
 
Pertinax said:
No. I think you're referring to Scimitar-horned oryx...They(Arabian Oryx) share part of the antelope house used by the Bongo- this house is adjacent to the road not far from the 'viewpoint cafe' or between the wolves and the White rhinos. When I saw them they had stalls and hardstanding area only.
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Ah thanks, I remembered seeing oryx in that enclosure, but I couldn't remember which ones...
 
Maguari said:
That's where I saw them earlier this year but a couple of weeks ago they were on the strange paddock on the right as you enter the Asian drive-through (behind the Cheetahs). The Nile Lechwe that were in that paddock had been moved 'forward' to the paddock next to the Cheetahs on the main road.
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That is better. At least the Arabian Oryx now have a paddock and are more on display. Probably this move was to get the two species in their correct 'zones' but its certainly better for the Oryx too.

The red River hogs did have their own enclosure near the Giraffes. Is that where they aree still & how many did you see on your last visit?
 
Pertinax said:
That is better. At least the Arabian Oryx now have a paddock and are more on display. Probably this move was to get the two species in their correct 'zones' but its certainly better for the Oryx too.

The red River hogs did have their own enclosure near the Giraffes. Is that where they aree still & how many did you see on your last visit?
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Yup, that's where the hogs are now, with the Sitatungas between them and the entrance to the lion area. Didn't pay too close attention but think there were three hogs. They overwintered in the indoor former Pygmy Hippo area.
 
Having looked at a picture of a springhare at the five sisters zoo taken by maguari, are there many more in the UK, i remember London, Blackpool and Bristol keeping them about 10 years ago!
 
kiang said:
Having looked at a picture of a springhare at the five sisters zoo taken by maguari, are there many more in the UK, i remember London, Blackpool and Bristol keeping them about 10 years ago!
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I believe they are in private hands, if not zoos.
 
MARK said:
It would be nice if zoos in the UK could kick start with the breeding of Gaurs with the new baby at Whipsnade maybe they could import a couple more from Europe
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Edinburgh are supposed to be acquiring Gaur later this year, but I don't know how many or where from. Over to you, Kiang?
 
There are supposed to be gaur, a pair i think coming from Madrid sometime this year, but a strain of the blue tongue disease not immune to the vaccine has been discovered in southern Europe and it is this that is putting a hold on any import.
 
Gaur.

Gaur have been teetering on the brink of extinction in the UK for so long now, it would be really good if they could be re-established instead of becoming yet another species lost from our zoos. A very impressive species for any collection featuring them too even if it will always be in a minority.

I would like to see them come to Edinburgh and maybe one or two other mainstream collections. e.g. Chester or perhaps one of the Safari Parks so that the three or so holders could breed and exchange animals as they build up groups.
 
Pertinax said:
Gaur have been teetering on the brink of extinction in the UK for so long now, it would be really good if they could be re-established instead of becoming yet another species lost from our zoos. A very impressive species for any collection featuring them too even if it will always be in a minority.

I would like to see them come to Edinburgh and maybe one or two other mainstream collections. e.g. Chester or perhaps one of the Safari Parks so that the three or so holders could breed and exchange animals as they build up groups.
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That would be a great idea :cool:
 
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