Thylacine living in zoo ?

Chlidonias said:
well I'm impressed ThylacineAlive. Well done. I expected more out-right belief from you, but you worked through it pretty well. It is (of course) not a photo of a living thylacine at all.
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Ah, so it was a test. Very clever. Unfortunetly zoobeat won't work on my computer so I can't see where the picture originaly came from. Did I not say it looked kind of foosa-like to me?:D
Although, I'd say that second picture from Tasmania is definetly proof!!:D
Who knows, mabye Thylacines really do still live in New Guinea like the natives have reported. Looks like all those would-be Thylacine hunters are searching in the wrong area (good luck getting into Papua New Guinea).
 
Getting into PNG is not too difficult :), Port Moresby has an airport these days :). To be fair getting yourself inland into potentential area's where potentially thylacines are living will be more challenging.
 
ThylacineAlive said:
Unfortunetly zoobeat won't work on my computer so I can't see where the picture originaly came from. Did I not say it looked kind of foosa-like to me?:D
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Zoobeat was the old name for this site; just replace the word "beat" with the word "chat" in the URL and it should work.
 
DDcorvus said:
Getting into PNG is not too difficult :), Port Moresby has an airport these days :). To be fair getting yourself inland into potentential area's where potentially thylacines are living will be more challenging.
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I don't really know much about the country so I think it's best for me not to be going there anytime soon. Does PNG have any zoos? What's the best zoo in Indonesia anyway?
 
ThylacineAlive said:
Who knows, mabye Thylacines really do still live in New Guinea like the natives have reported. Looks like all those would-be Thylacine hunters are searching in the wrong area (good luck getting into Papua New Guinea).
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If they do(and it is quite possible) I would expect them to be smaller than the Tasmanian ones. There's a biological law concerning heat retention/body mass which means animals of a species from colder areas have a larger surface area and thicker hair, to more efficiently retain heat, than their counterparts in warmer/tropical areas resulting in considerable size and coat difference between specimens from the different areas.

Examples;

Siberian/Sumatran Tiger.
Temperate/tropical living Pumas(and Jaguars)
Temperate/tropical Grey Wolf.
Brown Bear.
Koala Bear (notable size difference, and coat thickness, between e.g. Queensland(small) & Victoria (larger).

Thylacines in Tasmania evidently grew a thicker coat in the winter months too, presumably New Guinea ones would not do that.
 
Pertinax said:
If they do(and it is quite possible) I would expect them to be smaller than the Tasmanian ones. There's a biological law concerning heat retention/body mass which means animals of a species from colder areas have a larger surface area and thicker hair, to more efficiently retain heat, than their counterparts in warmer/tropical areas resulting in considerable size and coat difference between specimens from the different areas.
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that's Bergmann's Rule but it is affected by altitude (which I think may be Jame's Rule) -- e.g. alpine tree kangaroos such as the dingiso are larger and thicker-furred than lowland tropical tree kangaroos such as Lumholtz's tree kangaroo. If there are thylacines in New Guinea, they would not necessarily be smaller or thinner-furred because they may be alpine.
 
ThylacineAlive said:
(good luck getting into Papua New Guinea).
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Papua New Guinea is easy to get into, but it is expensive to get around in (it mostly involves flying because of the terrain). Irian Jaya is a little more difficult because of permits, but is still quite possible.
 
Pertinax said:
If they do(and it is quite possible) I would expect them to be smaller than the Tasmanian ones. There's a biological law concerning heat retention/body mass which means animals of a species from colder areas have a larger surface area and thicker hair, to more efficiently retain heat, than their counterparts in warmer/tropical areas resulting in considerable size and coat difference between specimens from the different areas.

Examples;

Siberian/Sumatran Tiger.
Temperate/tropical living Pumas(and Jaguars)
Temperate/tropical Grey Wolf.
Brown Bear.
Koala Bear (notable size difference, and coat thickness, between e.g. Queensland(small) & Victoria (larger).

Thylacines in Tasmania evidently grew a thicker coat in the winter months too, presumably New Guinea ones would not do that.
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Hense the Polar Bear and Emperor Penguin.

But who cares about that if Thylacines are still alive!!!!:D
 
Chlidonias said:
If there are thylacines in New Guinea, they would not necessarily be smaller or thinner-furred because they may be alpine.
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I just rather like the idea of pocket-sized Thylacines that can only prey on tiny quarry..:D

I suppose that's what a Numbat is really....
 
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Pertinax said:
I suppose that's what a Numbat is really....
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Another species I hope - probably in vain - that I will see one day.

Back on-topic, I think that an undocumented New Guinea population is the only hope, albeit slim, for surviving Thylacine.
 
TeaLovingDave said:
Another species I hope - probably in vain - that I will see one day.
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Numbats-You have to go to Perth Zoo, they generally have one(or more) on show. There is a National Park somewhere South of Perth where they live too but not sure about access or the probability of seeing them there- I did see the one at Perth Zoo quite easily though and I believe they are diurnal by nature.

Thylacines- a bit harder to see nowadays.;)
 
Pertinax said:
Numbats-You have to go to Perth Zoo, they generally have one(or more) on show. There is a National Park somewhere South of Perth where they live too but not sure about access or the probability of seeing them there- I did see the one at Perth Zoo quite easily though and I believe they are diurnal by nature.
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Quite - the problem is that although they are reasonably visible at Perth Zoo by all accounts, I'm not getting to Australia any time soon and the problem with having all the captive eggs in one basket is that it only takes one lot of misfortune to cripple the breeding programme
 
Pertinax said:
In the face of much evidence against it, what is it particularly that makes you think the Thylacine still exists in Tasmania.?
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His age.

:p
 
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