Zoos should be relegated to history

snowleopard

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My local zoo is Greater Vancouver, even though I have not visited in well over a year and prefer a 5-hour roundtrip journey to the great Woodland Park in Seattle. Those that know me well on this site realize that I have adored zoos since I have been knee high to a grasshopper and I've visited 180 of them over the years so the headline I used does not represent my personal feelings towards animals in captivity. Greater Vancouver has come under fire for a 3rd giraffe death in less than a year, with the two previous autopsies not giving any reason for the deaths. There have been many infamous incidents over the years and the local Humane Society has attempted to convince the zoo to abandon the notion of maintaining exotics in the collection.

In the November 7th edition of the "Province" newspaper, read by over one million people each week, the editorial column's headline is "Zoos should be relegated to history". The article goes on to state that "zoos - prisons for animals - are no longer something we, as a species, should support." Ouch. There is yet again a push to send all of the non-North American animals away from the local zoo, although the facility has fought back by declaring that it has been unjustly tarnished. This is what happens with negative press regarding zoos, and it can be incredibly damaging to all zoos worldwide. The bad zoos need to be weeded out of existence so that the overall impression of zoos by the general public improves to an acceptable level. Greater Vancouver is far from a terrible zoo and some of the exhibits are actually rather large and impressive, but there needs to be a decision in regards to some species perhaps not being kept in the rainy, damp, chilly Canadian weather.

To top it all off there has been a string of detailed incidents over the years: 4 zebras dying in quick succession due to fright over the Cape buffalo placed in their enclosure in 2009; a golden eagle being used in a flight show being eaten by one of the lions as the bird stopped for a rest in the wrong location in 2008; a hawk landing on a young boy's head during a bird show in 2008; two hippos drowning in ice-covered ponds in the 1980's; the elephant saga in the 1990's with one African and one Asian pachyderm; multiple suspicious giraffe deaths between 2006-2012 (at least 4 deaths plus one of the females was pregnant); vandals breaking in and killing a spider monkey and stealing its mate in 2008; a baby hippo being kept in a rundown shed for 18 months until a suitable exhibit was constructed; a petting farm area that opened and then was quickly abandoned and now holds turkeys; and I'm sure that there are other issues that have slipped my mind over time.
 
The bad zoos need to be weeded out of existence so that the overall impression of zoos by the general public improves to an acceptable level...

Attendance figures show the overall impression of zoos is positive. However, I do agree there are some truly awful zoos that need to be weeded out and also some truly bad exhibits in even good zoos that need immediate attention. Reference things like the corn crib monkey cages at San Diego Zoo, corn crib macaw cage at Phoenix Zoo, tiny indoor cages at Memphis Zoo nocturnal house, etc.
 
:confused: What are corn crib cages? are they a type of cage or a sponsored exhibit from corn crib what ever that is.
please excuse my ignorance, Some times I feel the need for a glossary on this site :p
 
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To some extent the people who hate zoos are not influenced by good zoos or bad zoos. They are influenced by PAWS, PETA, and similar organizations who have done a better job at claiming the conversation than the AZA or many zoos have. Being anti-zoo has almost become politically correct.
Look at any on-line article about zoos and the anti-zoo people fill the comments because they are mobilized and active. Their numbers may be small but their voice is loud and everywhere.
And as we all know, even the best zoos have old small exhibits. Improving zoos is a never-ending, on-going project. A zoo hater can always find something to grouse about.

And then there are the people who translate all animals in enclosures with human rights and aspirations, equating enclosures with "prisons," "incarceration," "loss of freedom," etc. like some Tea Party pamphlet. Such emotional arguments are very hard to counter as they come from deep personal beliefs. Often there is a greater interest in fighting to open "the cages" than to be truly humane.The people who claim that
zoos - prisons for animals - are no longer something we, as a species, should support.
do not seem equally motivated to, as a species, support adequate human health care, human child care, human senior care, etc. And they don't seem equally motivated to secure wild places for wild animals, either. They like easy targets, I think
Zoos must continue to improve.
Zoo supporters must continue to support zoos both financially and socially.
Anti-zoo people must be challenged directly, often and repeatedly. But rationally, not merely attempting to demonize and ignore them.
 
:confused: What are corn crib cages?

Sorry, that may have been a bad term to use. Maybe it is not even a real term, just something I heard somewhere. It is the cages that can be purchased pre-made and I think are used to store corn or things like that. They are either round or oval, usually about twenty feet tall (just a rough guess) and have sloping down currogated metal roofs. I wish I had a photo of one, as that would explain it better, but they are so ugly I have never bothered to take a picture of one.
 
Like this:
http://www.zoochat.com/596/scarlet-macaw-exhibit-242156/

They aren't aesthetically pleasing, but this one in particular is larger than some, and gives the macaws the ability to fly, something not seen in the "parrot on a stick" type exhibits that are found in many zoos (including Reid Park ;)) The pair living in this enclosure has successfully bred many times.
 
The headline had me worried for a second.

It bothers me to no end that people are allowed to write such things in the paper, they might as well be calling for the end of public schools and libraries. When it comes to weather, while it certainly is wet and chilly here the species kept have adapted to living in zoos in parts of the world much colder than BC.
 
Thanks for clearing up the 'corn crib cages' I have also googled them and one place (Ceder cove feline centre) is asking fora larger one to house leopards as they say leopards like to eat high up. I think they like a bit of privacy too and the one in the photo doesn't have that. It looks a very amateur place.
 
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An update: This week "The Province" newspaper ran a series of letters and comments from the public and everything was overwhelmingly negative in regards to the Greater Vancouver Zoo maintaining exotic animals in its collection. Due to the series of infamous incidents over the years (see an earlier post) the zoo has a very poor reputation in the community. One substandard zoological park can definitely shed a poor light on many stellar institutiions.
 
The headline had me worried for a second.

It bothers me to no end that people are allowed to write such things in the paper, they might as well be calling for the end of public schools and libraries. BC.

Dont worry, there are journalists and politicians who do call for an end to these institutions
 
There will always be those who take advantage of a situation to further their agenda of eliminating zoos.
 
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