The football thread

After googling sporting deaths, I found these.

French cycling road race, 1800s
The way his head gave way after hitting the ground was like if you cycled over a boiled egg.

Fencing, 1936 Olympics- a spiked part of the sabre. Caught in one of the fine holes in the protective hatting, and snapped making part of the sabre go trough his eye socket
 
nanoboy said:
As thylacine said, there are under aged kids here. Which reminds me: what is the minimum age to be a member here as per the site's terms and conditions? We do discuss some adult topics so at the very least I thought it would be pg 13.
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epickoala is 13 and he's the youngest member that I know of. I was joking when I said that as I doubt there are any members on here who don't have some clue about that stuff.

~Thylo:cool:
 
nanoboy said:
As thylacine said, there are under aged kids here. Which reminds me: what is the minimum age to be a member here as per the site's terms and conditions? We do discuss some adult topics so at the very least I thought it would be pg 13.
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what are you talking about?

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American Football has strategy, defined positions, and isn't the sport of the third world. The reason Soccer is so popular is because it takes no money or defined skill to play it. Hence its why you see 8 yr olds running around chasing a ball on a Saturday.
 
So let me get this straight there is almost no hunting, no right to bear arms, or American Football in y'all countries I think I will stay here. haha

Come on what do you guys do?
 
tschandler71 said:
American Football has strategy, defined positions, and isn't the sport of the third world. The reason Soccer is so popular is because it takes no money or defined skill to play it. Hence its why you see 8 yr olds running around chasing a ball on a Saturday.
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I'm no particular football fan, but if there's one thing it has got going for it it's that it is so accessible to so many people. You don't need expensive kit, or access to a specialist playing area - just something to kick, somewhere to kick it and a few things you can pretend are goalposts.

Surely you can't be suggesting that sports are better if only rich people can play them?



tschandler71 said:
So let me get this straight there is almost no hunting, no right to bear arms, or American Football in y'all countries I think I will stay here. haha

Come on what do you guys do?
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Oh, we just make do with all the other products of our several thousand-year-old civilisations. ;)

Actually, as an American football fan, can you explain why American footballers wear all that ridiculous padding, but rugby players get on fine without (despite their sport being at least as rough to the outside observer)? There may be a reason but I've yet to see one.
 
Maguari said:
I'm no particular football fan, but if there's one thing it has got going for it it's that it is so accessible to so many people. You don't need expensive kit, or access to a specialist playing area - just something to kick, somewhere to kick it and a few things you can pretend are goalposts.

Surely you can't be suggesting that sports are better if only rich people can play them?






Oh, we just make do with all the other products of our several thousand-year-old civilisations. ;)

Actually, as an American football fan, can you explain why American footballers wear all that ridiculous padding, but rugby players get on fine without (despite their sport being at least as rough to the outside observer)? There may be a reason but I've yet to see one.
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Rugby players do wear pads just different kinds.

Different nature of the game a lot has to do with the stoppage of play in American football. American football players are bigger and the hits are a lot harder. The hits are high impact collisions that are very different from rugby hits. The system of downs and simultaneous possession mean the intent of tackling is to stop the player dead in their tracks. Hence the momentum. Also in rugby you don't leave your feet which happens 9/10 in American football.

Its a fundamentally different game with fundamentally different contact than rugby. Every time I tried Rugby in college I enjoyed it but its a much different game than American football having played football for a long long time.

If American Football was safe without pads then there would be no point in playing Flag Football would there?
 
tschandler71 said:
If American Football was safe without pads then there would be no point in playing Flag Football would there?
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But there is an equivalent to Flag Football in Touch Rugby for the same reasons.

To be honest, I don't have many strong feelings about sport - I take a casual interest in many, and all my anti-elitist credentials take a knock as the sport I follow most closely is perhaps the most elitist of all (Formula 1), but a close interest in very few. It's all part of the rich tapestry of life though.


Oh, and as a Brit, I'm legally obliged today to add (in deference to a sport I enjoy far more than any variant of football):



"C'MON ANDYYYY!!"
 
Maguari said:
I'm no particular football fan, but if there's one thing it has got going for it it's that it is so accessible to so many people. You don't need expensive kit, or access to a specialist playing area - just something to kick, somewhere to kick it and a few things you can pretend are goalposts.

Surely you can't be suggesting that sports are better if only rich people can play them?
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Many people (including me) play American Football just like that. We don't buy all the expensive stuff, we just get a ball and pick two places to be the endzones and that's all. Just as accessible as Football/Soccer.

Also, you don't have to be rich to play any sport except Polo.

~Thylo:cool:
 
ThylacineAlive said:
Many people (including me) play American Football just like that. We don't buy all the expensive stuff, we just get a ball and pick two places to be the endzones and that's all. Just as accessible as Football/Soccer.
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Which further undermines tschandler71's point, which I'm still not entirely sure I understand.
 
Maguari said:
Which further undermines tschandler71's point, which I'm still not entirely sure I understand.
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We aren't as big and we don't play as roughly though. The reason the professionals where lots of pads is because the guys playing are enormous and the tackles can be hard enough to break bones and at times several guys all tackle one man. Even with all the pads injuries aren't an uncommon occurance. I'm not saying Rugbey isn't a tough sport or dangerous, I'm just trying to explain tschandler's point.

~Thylo:cool:
 
ThylacineAlive said:
We aren't as big and we don't play as roughly though. The reason the professionals where lots of pads is because the guys playing are enormous and the tackles can be hard enough to break bones and at times several guys all tackle one man. Even with all the pads injuries aren't an uncommon occurance. I'm not saying Rugbey isn't a tough sport or dangerous, I'm just trying to explain tschandler's point.

~Thylo:cool:
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Tackles in Rugby can break bones,and in many cases they just play on with broken ribs or fingers!
 
zoogiraffe said:
Tackles in Rugby can break bones,and in many cases they just play on with broken ribs or fingers!
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As I said, I'm not saying Rugbey isn't a very rough sport and I'm not picking sides as I've never played Rugbey, I'm just explaining was tschandler was trying to say.

~Thylo:cool:
 
ThylacineAlive said:
We aren't as big and we don't play as roughly though. The reason the professionals where lots of pads is because the guys playing are enormous and the tackles can be hard enough to break bones and at times several guys all tackle one man. Even with all the pads injuries aren't an uncommon occurance. I'm not saying Rugbey isn't a tough sport or dangerous, I'm just trying to explain tschandler's point.

~Thylo:cool:
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The dubious point I was alluding to was the implication that American football was better than football (i.e. soccer) because lots of poor people played football (i.e. soccer). This is clearly nonsense in both directions - a) plenty of people with little cash play American football and b) being played by such people does not diminish either sport (and arguably boosts their standing).
 
Maguari said:
a) plenty of people with little cash play American football and b) being played by such people does not diminish either sport (and arguably boosts their standing).
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I sort of think regular people playing American football makes them better than the professionals, because they don't look like such wusses covered in padding :D
 
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