ungulate nerd
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Ive been wondering if there are any Non-AZA zoos that have okapis, does anybody no if there are any ???
Non- AZA zoos with okapis
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zooboy28
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Yes. There are 17 such zoos in Europe.
there are also okapi in zoos in Africa and Japan
the National Zoo in South Africa got a pair from San Diego in October 2006
ungulate nerd
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Thanks for the information, i really appreciate it but what i actually meant was okapis in non AZA zoos in the united states, are there any ???
No. The U.S. okapi program is strictly regulated within AZA zoos and participating zoos pay a lot of money for okapi conservation for the privilege of having okapis.
White Oak is not a "regular" AZA institutional member, as it is not open to the public. I believe they have several okapis.
No. There are not.
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ungulate nerd
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I know this is off topic but can a Non-AZA zoo in the USA have Indian rhinos or Red pandas
ungulate nerd
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Which Japanese zoos have Okapi ?, I know Japanese zoos have some interesting species that you wouldn't think would be in Japanese zoos for example, the Kyoto Zoo has Himalayan goral, The Tama Zoo has Alpine chamois and the Osaka Zoo had/has Mongolian gazelle
Any zoo can have any species of animals they want, but of course this statement is only true given the expense, regulatory process, and availability of any species.
While the various SSP programs developed by the AZA have attempted to manage the genetics and demographics of various different species in the US, the AZA doesn't control who can and can't have certain species. The AZA can really only attempt to regulate the animals held within their member facilities. And the disposition policies supported by the AZA do not penalize their member zoos for sending animals to non-AZA facilities.
To answer your question in post #11: Yes, non-AZA zoos can house Indian Rhinoceros and Red Panda. In addition these species already exist in non-AZA facilities.
The answer to your question in post #12 can be found at www.theokapi.org
While the various SSP programs developed by the AZA have attempted to manage the genetics and demographics of various different species in the US, the AZA doesn't control who can and can't have certain species. The AZA can really only attempt to regulate the animals held within their member facilities. And the disposition policies supported by the AZA do not penalize their member zoos for sending animals to non-AZA facilities.
To answer your question in post #11: Yes, non-AZA zoos can house Indian Rhinoceros and Red Panda. In addition these species already exist in non-AZA facilities.
The answer to your question in post #12 can be found at www.theokapi.org
devilfish
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I think Zoorasia was one.
Gerenuk what determines how zoos get animals specifically outside of the SSP's? Like take this incident yesterday where a Pit Bull killed an Addax and a Scimitar Oryx at a pretty ghetto looking zoo in Louisiana. Also to mention that the Baton Rouge Zoo as well has a huge hoofstock colletion and it is pretty ghetto looking. So if those types of zoos can freely source rare hoofstock like those mentioned why is Birmingham (who is under the control of a former AZA president btw) having such a hard time sourcing hoofstock?
The reason I ask is my last conversation with the head hoofstock keeper she had these grand plans to supplement the gains made by Trails with Bongo and eventually Okapi and try to do Okapi feeding which Im not sure but it is either rare or non existent in the AZA. But they are having problems even sourcing impala which were in the original design of the exhibit.
The reason I ask is my last conversation with the head hoofstock keeper she had these grand plans to supplement the gains made by Trails with Bongo and eventually Okapi and try to do Okapi feeding which Im not sure but it is either rare or non existent in the AZA. But they are having problems even sourcing impala which were in the original design of the exhibit.
Well, Baton Rouge is a AZA facility. Addax and Scimitar Oryx are also fairly plentiful in captivity. The animals from this non-AZA facility in Louisiana could have been sourced from a variety of locations, AZA and non...
Money.
Zoos that are AZA accredited, generally should follow AZA policies and source animals that follow SSP guidelines (generally ones whose lineage can be traced). Given that Birmingham's director is a former AZA president, he will want his zoo to be managed very ethically. If anything, it is more difficult for public, AZA accredited zoos to source animals.
Ironic, a cartel which wants to control/restrict who owns animals or encourages conservation/restoration is having difficulty sourcing animals?
If they had a two way door which allowed animals out & not just in, or only to others within their cartel,then private breeders may consider trades & this would increase the biodiversity within captive populations.
Cheers Khakibob
The "two-way street" you describe used to exist, but unfortunately led to national television exposes of canned hunts of animals sourced from accredited zoos, bankruptcy sales and deliberate inbreeding by some of the private breeders. There are certainly many reputable, ethical private owners, but quite a few "dodgy" ones as well, and it's difficult to distinguish, thus the focus on working within the AZA (or "cartel" if you must....).
You are really making this out to be something that it isn't.
Association of Zoos and Aquariums - Acquisition - Disposition PolicyAZA