The Jurassic Park Series

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tschandler71

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With the 3D rerealse and 4 upcoming, there is a renewed buzz concerning Jurassic Park. And since it is a movie series technically about a Zoo I thought it deserved its own thread. I just didn't know if it should be here or the Cafe, mods can determine that. Anyone watch the rerelease? I know me and DavidBrown talked a little about dinos on Facebook yesterday.

A few random thoughts to get started.

Here is a "ah ha" moment I had while watching JP1 for the 100th time.

Remember how apparently they bred 8 raptors originally. When they bred the 8th the "big one" she killed all but 2 of the others. We also later see Grant and the children run into raptor eggs. With them using frog DNA has anyone considered the reason she kept those two alive is that they were the two that became male? She took over, killed the other 5 females and kept the two that changed sex?

Also they are promising a new "different" and scary dinosaur for JP4 - My money is on therizinosaurus. Horner helped discover them irl, they were first thought to be raptor cousins, then herbivores, then carnivores, now they aren't sure. They are giant dinosaurs with massive arms and grim reaper like claws. They could do an interesting callback to the first movie about how Lex say the "veggiesaurus" as good. They see it (perhaps even her character) eating plants then boom the first onscreen herbivore kill of the series.

They can say when Ingen cloned it they didn't know what exactly it was much like with JP3 and thinking the baby spinosaurus was a Baryonyx. Hence why it wasn't on "Ingen's list" of the 15.
 
nanoboy said:
Whachoo talkin bout, Willis? /:-I
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cue the younger members going "what?"

Jurassic Park 4 is mostly composed of rumours. A director has been confirmed (Colin Trevorrow), dinosaurs will include a new scary species (apparently), it will be released in 2014 (apparently)....
 
Chlidonias said:
cue the younger members going "what?"

Jurassic Park 4 is mostly composed of rumours. A director has been confirmed (Colin Trevorrow), dinosaurs will include a new scary species (apparently), it will be released in 2014 (apparently)....
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Also, the director is adamantly against feathers on his dinosaurs.
 
jbnbsn99 said:
Also, the director is adamantly against feathers on his dinosaurs.
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In all fairness, apart from a couple of frilly bits on the raptors in III, there were none in the first three, so continuity-wise it would make no sense for them to suddenly appear now unless more DNA has been found and new cloning done as part of the plot.
 
I think its probably better not to have feathers, simply for the sake of continuity. It's just make-believe after all.
 
jbnbsn99 said:
So?

As I see it, it's a documentary about poor exhibit design.
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it is also about how scientists can't get enough real intact dinosaur DNA so they use bits of frog and reptile DNA to fill in the gaps, and hence they aren't real dinosaurs brought back from the past with a time machine, they are faux dinosaurs created in a lab with all the faults that entails. Hence no feathers. I mean these scientists couldn't even spell Stegosaurus correctly on their own records, do you think they could get the DNA mix correct?
 
Poor exhibit design and bad spelling aside, I think we all know that we will definitely be seeing it in cinema when it comes out!
 
nanoboy said:
Poor exhibit design and bad spelling aside, I think we all know that we will definitely be seeing it in cinema when it comes out!
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Only if it's good. I don't want to subject my eyes to Michael Bay-esque schlock.
 
Yeah the whole point Michael Crichton was making with the novels and it eventually came through in 3 was that they aren't real dinosaurs just theme park attractions brought to life through now we know impossible genetic engineering (especially considering it would be if possible done through bird dna)

But the whole raptor thing with Jurassic Park has always been interesting. Everyone who knows Dinosaurs loves to point out the "raptor" was too big. Well thats not true in a certain point of view. In 1988 when Crichton wrote the first novel, Deinonychus was classified as a species of Velicioraptor what was cloned in the park as Velociraptor arrithrophus after the smaller raptors found in mongolia. The ones from Mongolia have feathers. But they determined much later (mid to late 90s) that the Montana found species was its own animal hence Deinonychus Arritrophus. And recently they found skin impressions which show Deinonychus has no feathers.

So they were right all along Crichton just got the name wrong even though Raptor is cooler.
 
tschandler71 said:
But the whole raptor thing with Jurassic Park has always been interesting. Everyone who knows Dinosaurs loves to point out the "raptor" was too big...
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Well, I always thought that U. ostrommaysorum was the intended relation. It's supposed to be twice the size of Deinonychus. Velociraptor, however, sounds cooler than Utahraptor.
 
Buldeo said:
Well, I always thought that U. ostrommaysorum was the intended relation. It's supposed to be twice the size of Deinonychus. Velociraptor, however, sounds cooler than Utahraptor.
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its either Utahraptor or Deinonychus size but the subspecies name is what gets you the antirrhopus was the stated subspecies from the novel and movie which means that when Ingen's scientists created their Raptor antirrhopus it was actually Denonychus antirrhopus
 
Cool photo though. Has anyone here ever visited? It looks like the location for many movies and TV series.
 
It's on the north side of Oahu, beautiful place where lots of movies and tv have been filmed.

Cooler still though, on the island of Kuaia the posts that held the Jurassic Park gate still stand. Had to check it out when I was there a few years ago...not much left but there is a small hike and a little waterfall...but really about driving through that the gate.

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