Chester Zoo bengal tigers still at the zoo

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Hi someone posted that the bengal tigers had left the zoo, but I was there on the 13/8/08 and they are still there they are being kept away from the sumatran tiger. And he was on display in the outdoors exhibt while the 2 bengal tiger where kept indoors on show through the veiwing window, but when they swap over the somtimes keep they sumatran tiger off show.

ps i am a new member and mad about zoos especially chester. :)
 
It can only be a matter of time before they leave now...

Does anyone know where the female Sumatran Tiger is being sourced from?
 
I think the biggest problem is find homes for the bengal tigers, because you are not allowed to breed these anymore and tiger cubs are a real crowd puller so most zoo are stocking the amur or Sumatran tigers.
 
I think the biggest problem is find homes for the bengal tigers, because you are not allowed to breed these anymore and tiger cubs are a real crowd puller so most zoo are stocking the amur or Sumatran tigers.

I thought it had been confirmed (on here) that they would return to West Midlands (where they came from originally) once a female Sumatran arrived.
 
I thought it had been confirmed (on here) that they would return to West Midlands (where they came from originally) once a female Sumatran arrived.
The plan was they would return when the zoo got a Sumatran but he`s been here a while now and the Bengals are still here,might have something to do with West Midlands having no space to take them back!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I thought it had been confirmed (on here) that they would return to West Midlands (where they came from originally) once a female Sumatran arrived.

That is also what I believe will be happening. Chester only recieved them to fill the whole when there last Amur Tiger Died.
 
The plan was they would return when the zoo got a Sumatran but he`s been here a while now and the Bengals are still here,might have something to do with West Midlands having no space to take them back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Too busy breeding non-pure White Tigers, to care about a couple or Normal coloured tigers.

I must of saw over ten tigers there when I visited, seems such a waste of space! :(
 
I thought on Monday that the zoo had 1.1 Sumatrans, I saw only two tigers which both seemed to be small and darkly coloured. I'm sorry for the mistake.
 
Too busy breeding non-pure White Tigers, to care about a couple or Normal coloured tigers.

I must of saw over ten tigers there when I visited, seems such a waste of space! :(
But they claim their White Tigers are the purist Bengals in the U.K!!!!!!!!!????????Personally i don`t think any of them are very pure.
 
But they claim their White Tigers are the purist Bengals in the U.K!!!!!!!!!????????Personally i don`t think any of them are very pure.

I would be very surprised if any tigers, which ever sub-species are pure. Unless recently acquired.
 
It's such a shame, cats really have some decent enclosures in Safari parks, it would be fantastic to get to the point where every one has amurs or sumatrans (or even indo-chinese or Malayan). Perhaps the natural theming for the lions and tigers at WMSP should be a las vegas magic show as opposed to giving the impression these animals are a valid rare wild subspecies.
 
It's such a shame, cats really have some decent enclosures in Safari parks,

Where may I ask? The only decent enclosure I have seen were at Longleat where they are given alot more room than any of the other safari parks I have been too.

Then when its busy you get a queues pumping out not very nice gases at their level.
 
traffic aside, I had always percieved woburn and longleat to have sufficient space for large cats. Windsor was also fairly good in this respect. Space is just the start, obviously, but my point is that the safari parks have some great potential that is only starting to be realised since the passing of the clubb-chipperfield days.
 
I thought on Monday that the zoo had 1.1 Sumatrans, I saw only two tigers which both seemed to be small and darkly coloured. I'm sorry for the mistake.

Being a high profile species I'm sure Chester would announce the arrival of a female Sumatran Tiger on their website news etc. Its certainly taking a long time for them to organise one.
 
But they claim their White Tigers are the purist Bengals in the U.K!??Personally i don`t think any of them are very pure.

There is no such thing as 'purest'... they're either purebred or they're not!! No Uk White tigers are pure anymore- the only ones that ever were, were from Bristol's stock.

I really would like to see some zoo. somewhere. keeping purebred normal-coloured Indian tigers again, but it seems India won't allow them out.
 
I agree with you on that they are either Pure-bred or not but we all know what West Midlands is like for believing its own PR.Case point been its pure West African Leopard which is a Hybrid of god only knows what sub-species of Leopard.
 
Well, if it makes them feel good that's okay;) except that its a pity as people will believe everything they are told...:rolleyes:
 
There is no such thing as 'purest'... they're either purebred or they're not!! No Uk White tigers are pure anymore- the only ones that ever were, were from Bristol's stock.

I really would like to see some zoo. somewhere. keeping purebred normal-coloured Indian tigers again, but it seems India won't allow them out.

Given that all white tigers in the UK would stem from the 'breeding programs' in the US, one could imply that no white tiger would be purely Bengal as Amur genes were introduced to make individuals bigger (and more impressive) for the shows.

Even normal-coloured Bengals in the UK must be considered suspect. An female individual from Twycross was sent back to India (some time ago, maybe 70s), released and actually bred. Researchers noticed that subsequent generations of tigers from this national park were statistically larger then neighbouring populations. Apparently Amur genes were present in the Twycross female, but at the time they were unable to test for it.

Again I would stress that the UK does not have suitable holding spaces to house breeding Sumatrans, Amurs and a display group of generic zoo tigers. The breeding moratorium on Amurs should not mean that collections suddenly dip out on their responsibility to maintain a population in captivity. For most members of the public, a tiger is a large striped cat. They will not pay extra money at the gate to see an Indo-Chinese, Malayan, South Chinese or for that matter Caspian, Balinese or Javan tiger! I would suspect that the majority of people on this forum would be hard-pressed to tell them apart, except for size.
 
I don't think the motivation for any collection to keep pure tiger subspecies should be gate revenue. There is a need for indo-chinese and malayan tiger ex situ management for the sake of maintaining reserves of this species, with the malayan represented in some European collections. I don't think it matters whether a zoo decides to join the Amur tiger EEP to act as a holding for non-breeding animals, or works to bring Malayan tigers into their collection, the point is that they are taking seriously their ability to contribute to captive tiger management. I wouldn't think it for the benefit of the public, let alone the zoo enthusiasts among them, regardless of how keen their subspecific radar might be...

Is there are shortage of space for Amur and Sumatran tigers within the UK and europe? Chester, Howlettts and the Kent Big Cat foundation have all added Sumatran tigers in the last few years. Longleat has switched to Amurs in the last couple of years and Dublin added them alongside the existing sumatrans. Has the recent increase in African lion births in UK safari parks been due to a demand for African lions by zoos, or was it unplanned and put pressure on collections to rehouse their cubs? Someone else mentioned there aren't as many asiatic lions available to collections that would otherwise opt for them, would this be connected to it?

What I get from this, and other threads, is that West Midland Safari Park is causing themselves and now possibly Chester a slight issue through the unethical breeding of mutation cats at levels not seen elsewhere in this country for some time. I can only assume it is extremely profitable for the park to do so. Meanwhile, far from ideal enclosure rotation has to happen at Chester.
 
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