How safe is Asia?

But Bosnia and Herzegovina and Albania are geographically in Europe whereas just a tiny piece of turkey is considered to be on the European mainland - the rest being in Asia. Also, those countries you mentioned, Greece included, were once part of the Ottoman Empire, and have been trying to shake off that Muslim / Turkish influence for a century (cue the wars from the mid 90s and the destruction of the Mostar Bridge).

The Yugoslav Wars were largely founded on ethnic divides which had existed long before the fall of Byzantium, and which both the Byzantine and Ottoman Empires had failed to remove - the fact that by-and-large the two dominant sides of the conflict were also divided on religious lines is primarily coincidental. This misconception is made more obvious when you consider that the first large-scale war crimes and ethnic cleansing during the Wars took place in the Croatian War of Independence, a conflict where both the Serbs and Croats - although different ethnic groups - were both demographically Christian.

To return to Turkey, both the Thracian and Anatolian components of the country are the most ethnically and culturally diverse areas of the Muslim world - although close to 99% of the population are demographically Muslim if one counts those who are not active practitioners of the religion, the long history of cultural interchange in this area of the world first under Byzantium and then under the Ottoman Empire makes the country as a whole quite tolerant in its outlook.

As such, it is a great shame that the atmosphere created by the exceptions to this rule has put you so thoroughly off returning.
 
The wars of the mid 90s in Western Balkans were not related the their Ottoman past, but more a fight for power between different ethnic groups (which ethnically aren't that different). The destruction of Mostar Bridge was done by a single mad Croat general and was condemned even by Croats. Yes their are still tension but these are not directly linked by the Ottoman past. And even if the most of Turkey is geographically in Asia, it is still closely linked historically with Europe. The border that you perceive is a fake one. If you go to Greece you will find a lot of ethnic and religious conservatism that is very similar to Turkey's. The same for Bulgaria or the Western Balkans. Yes Turkey is on a cross-road with elements from the Middle-East and Europe. Yes it is Muslim, but in the end it is as much a part of Europe as it is from the Middle East. And of course both regions say Turkey is not part of either at all, Europe because Turkey is Muslim and the Middle East because Turkey isn't an Arab country. I believe both are wrong on denouncing Turkey as it is closely tied with both.

I took so long to write my post that someone beat me to it :p

If anyone is interested in the cultural background to these issues, I strongly urge them to read about the history of the Balkans into the time of the Byzantine Empire, and not to assume that ethnic and cultural divisions only exist as a result of religious boundaries.

Another point made by DDcorvus which I neglected to make is that Turkey is categorically *not* an Arab country - demographically it is very largely Turkish with a large Kurdish minority; Arabs, along with Bosniaks, Croats, Serbs and Persians, form only a very small portion of the population.
 
Nanoboy and TLD we actually should have these discussion not on the forum but we should have them near the Bosporus, while drinking cold Efes and smoking nargile (to complete the picture we should actually also play Tavla)
 
I've traveled extensively in Asia (with cameras) for the last 30 years, and never had any problems. I can't even remember a minor theft.

Some parts of Asia, for instance Singapore and Japan, are probably the safest places on earth for travelers. Otherwise the problem areas for travelers tend to be in the popular tourist areas, and of course don't go to places like Iraq.

Do keep in mind that you are carrying several years wages around your neck for many people in many parts of Asia, so be aware of your surroundings and don't do stupid things like leaving your camera sitting on the edge of your table as you eat lunch.

Don't let fear change your travel plans, usually you have more to fear from falling under the proverbial bus outside your front door.
This is the best reply.
 
Nanoboy and TLD we actually should have these discussion not on the forum but we should have them near the Bosporus, while drinking cold Efes and smoking nargile (to complete the picture we should actually also play Tavla)

What's the alcoholic drink called? It was whitish in colour.

Anyway, I think you all hit the nail on the head by touching on the complexity of the region. The Balkans on the whole is not a region that I would like to visit. There's still some deep seated, centuries old hate there. Why can't we all just get along?
 
Do you mean Raki? It is colourless and transparent, and tastes of aniseed, but when diluted with water becomes opaque and white - in which form I believe it is called aslan sutu or lions milk.
 
Anyway, I think you all hit the nail on the head by touching on the complexity of the region. The Balkans on the whole is not a region that I would like to visit. There's still some deep seated, centuries old hate there. Why can't we all just get along?

Sorry for beeing inpolite here, but please talk about things you know of. The people are very friendly and those things do not affect you as a tourist at all. Furthermore, you miss out on a beautiful region of the world.
 
Sorry for beeing inpolite here, but please talk about things you know of. The people are very friendly and those things do not affect you as a tourist at all. Furthermore, you miss out on a beautiful region of the world.

Nah, the Balkans are not appealing enough for me to visit. Syrians and Egyptians are very friendly too, but I'll not be booking a ticket any time soon. I visited Switzerland and thought that the people were somewhat unfriendly, but I thoroughly enjoyed my visit - I felt safe, and the country was beautiful!
 
Nah, the Balkans are not appealing enough for me to visit. Syrians and Egyptians are very friendly too, but I'll not be booking a ticket any time soon. I visited Switzerland and thought that the people were somewhat unfriendly, but I thoroughly enjoyed my visit - I felt safe, and the country was beautiful!

Switzerland is most likely one of the safes place on earth... lol

If you find the Balkans not appealing this is your good right, but therefore call them unsafe is just not fair. It is absolutely no war zone anymore. Countries are members of the EU and safety is certainly comparable to US.
 
The only Balkan country I've visited was Croatia, where I felt very safe (admittedly in 'touristy' areas). Birds & reptiles were great, people seemed very friendly even though I was a stupid Brit who couldn't speak their language.
 
Switzerland is most likely one of the safes place on earth... lol

If you find the Balkans not appealing this is your good right, but therefore call them unsafe is just not fair. It is absolutely no war zone anymore. Countries are members of the EU and safety is certainly comparable to US.

I would give Switzerland 10/10 if the people only smiled more. :D

I love the camaraderie of immigrants from the former yugoslav republics during the Australian Open tennis games. :D Aussies know what I mean.
 
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