So Suci will stay on at Cincinnati then?
Cincinnati Zoo and Botanical Garden Sumatran Rhinos at Cincinnati Zoo
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So Suci will stay on at Cincinnati then?
taun
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I think thats the plan, but I suppose if they produce another femlae calf she could be moved off.
mstickmanp
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That's true, I had fegoten about that. I'm sure that San Diego will be a big candidate knowing that they will have that exhibit opened. Even though I still think that LA should get Harry.
MARK
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Part of the Tiger river exhibit at San Diego zoo was designed for a pair of Sumatran rhinos when it was first built, Sumatran Tigers, Tapirs and Sumatran rhinos were going to be the star species of this exhibit
mstickmanp
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Does anybody know what happened to that old sumatran rhino exhibit? Is it currently being used by another animal?
MARK
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I am sure it is being used by another species, when San Diego had a female Sumatran rhino at the zoo it was placed in the old (Northern, I think) White rhino exhibit, From what I can remeber she was later sent to another zoo on the eastern side of the US
mstickmanp
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Wow, by the looks of it Sumatrans have a hard time surviving in zoos. Do you know how many Sumatran Rhinos has LA had? Is it only Emi and Andalas?
mstickmanp
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Never mind, I just found the 2006 Sumatran Rhino Studbook online.
Here is the link:http://www.rhinoresourcecenter.com/ref_files/1203240060.pdf
Here is the link:http://www.rhinoresourcecenter.com/ref_files/1203240060.pdf
Sumatran Rhinos in American Zoos
Here is a list of the rest of the rhinos in the US a total of 4.6 Sumatrans. The individuals in italics belong to the insitution they are mentioned under.
Los Angeles Zoo
Mahato F arrived Nov 1988, transferred to Cincinnati Jun 1989
Rapunzel F arrived Nov 1989, transferred to Bronx May 1990
Emi F arrived Nov 1991, transferred to Cincinnati Aug 1995
Andalas M arrived Jun 2003, transferred to SRS 2007
Cincinnati Zoo
Mahato F arrived Jun 1989, died May 1992
Ipuh M arrived Oct 1991
Rapunzel F arrived Feb 1993, returned to Bronx Mar 2001
Emi F arrived Aug 1995
Andalas M born Sept 2001, transferred to Los Angeles Jun 2003
Suci F born Jul 2004
Harry M born 2007 (belongs to Los Angeles)
Bronx Zoo
Rapunzel F arrived May 1990, transferred to Cincinnati Feb 1993
died Dec 2005
Miami Metrozoo
Never received any individuals
Here is a list of the rest of the rhinos in the US a total of 4.6 Sumatrans. The individuals in italics belong to the insitution they are mentioned under.
Los Angeles Zoo
Mahato F arrived Nov 1988, transferred to Cincinnati Jun 1989
Rapunzel F arrived Nov 1989, transferred to Bronx May 1990
Emi F arrived Nov 1991, transferred to Cincinnati Aug 1995
Andalas M arrived Jun 2003, transferred to SRS 2007
Cincinnati Zoo
Mahato F arrived Jun 1989, died May 1992
Ipuh M arrived Oct 1991
Rapunzel F arrived Feb 1993, returned to Bronx Mar 2001
Emi F arrived Aug 1995
Andalas M born Sept 2001, transferred to Los Angeles Jun 2003
Suci F born Jul 2004
Harry M born 2007 (belongs to Los Angeles)
Bronx Zoo
Rapunzel F arrived May 1990, transferred to Cincinnati Feb 1993
died Dec 2005
Miami Metrozoo
Never received any individuals
mstickmanp
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Wow, great list! How do they decide what rhino belongs to who when they are born at Cincy? Like Andalas and Harry belong to LA, but Suci belongs Cincy.
Okapikpr, if you were talking about the old okapi exhibit across from the veldt, it is certainly gone as per the most recent google map. (After the okapi were moved, I know bongo and then yellow-backed duiker were housed here).
Regarding Tiger River, is the current tapir exhibit actually two exhibits? (I can't think of another space that might house rhinos). In order to get from one "lobe" to the other, the tapirs have to walk around the back of the central 'mudbank' ... I suspect there may have originally been a gate (... and may still be one?) between the two halves. However, if they currently have that capability, I would have thought they would have the gate closed to get more of their tapirs on exhibit and out of holding.
Regarding Tiger River, is the current tapir exhibit actually two exhibits? (I can't think of another space that might house rhinos). In order to get from one "lobe" to the other, the tapirs have to walk around the back of the central 'mudbank' ... I suspect there may have originally been a gate (... and may still be one?) between the two halves. However, if they currently have that capability, I would have thought they would have the gate closed to get more of their tapirs on exhibit and out of holding.
Are these rhinos actually owned by these zoos, rather than a blanket overall ownership by the Malaysian government or whomsoever in their country of origin?
(If 'Suci' is Cinci's then I'm sure she will stay where she is...)
So did L.A. relinquish 'Andalas' for repatriation, rather than Cincinnati?
Actually, the rhinos are all still 'owned' by "The Directorate General of Forest Protection & Nature Conservation, Ministry of Forestry, Republic of Indonesia", and Emi and Ipuh were originally acquired as "loan ins". Andalas' move back to Indonesia is recorded as "return to owner".
That's what I thought... So the movements within the USA zoos of the calves on the basis of 'ownership' (1,2,3 etc) etc are really only temporary and overall subject to dictates from Indonesia ?
That's what I thought... So the movements within the USA zoos of the calves on the basis of 'ownership' (1,2,3 etc) etc are really only temporary and overall subject to dictates/agreements between the zoos & Indonesia?