Twycross Zoo Is this true?

[OrangePerson]

In a communication from The Great Apes Survival Partnership (GRASP) it says:

The Twycross Zoo cares for the largest collection of primates in Europe and North America, and is celebrating its 50th anniversary in 2014. The zoo re-launched itself eight years ago as "Twycross Zoo – The World Primate Centre,” and is also among the industry leaders in environmental sustainability and field conservation support. For more, visit Twycross Zoo | World Primate Centre.

Is it really true that it has "the largest collection of primates in Europe and North America"

 

[lintworm]

Apenheul has around 35 primate species , Twycross 40 according to zootierliste... So they seem to be in front, althought they will probably lose some species the coming years... allthough in terms of individuals they will lose, as Apenheul has over a 100 squirrel monkeys alone...

 

[Chlidonias]

Apenheul has 35 primate species (soon 36 with the addition of hanuman langurs), Twycross will be around that number (maybe somebody has the exact number...), allthough in terms of individuals they will certainly lose, as Apenheul has over a 100 squirrel monkeys alone...

I was going to write something to the effect of in terms of individuals somewhere like Apenheul would have the most.

I did a count of species at Twycross from Zootierliste and got 40 species. They used to say on their website that they have the largest collection of primates outside of Japan.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Zootierliste claims that Twycross have 40 primate species, but I suspect that not everything on the list will still be at the collection.

 

[Maguari]

Zootierliste claims that Twycross have 40 primate species, but I suspect that not everything on the list will still be at the collection.

As far as I can see the Zootierliste list of primates matches exactly what was on display when I last visited on January 5th this year.

 

[zoogiraffe]

In a communication from The Great Apes Survival Partnership (GRASP) it says:



Is it really true that it has "the largest collection of primates in Europe and North America"

Yes its true at the moment,but I expect it to be wrong before the end of the year given that a few primates are on the surplus list and if they all leave the zoo it would give them 35 tops!

 

[Pertinax]

Yes its true at the moment,but I expect it to be wrong before the end of the year given that a few primates are on the surplus list and if they all leave the zoo it would give them 35 tops!

I wonder which species are involved and if any of them will be few more candidates for the Isle of Wight sanctuary. So far they've had, I think, some Javan Langurs and the Red-tailed Guenon and maybe something else I can't remember from Twycross. I guess any singles would end up there plus possibly anything else nowhere else will take.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

As a pure guess, I would imagine the Crowned Guenon, Lowes Guenon and Müllers Gibbon would be possible candidates for the Owl &Monkey Haven.

 

[Pertinax]

And maybe also as a phase-out perhaps the Roloways and/or Dianas?- they are ancient and like quite a lot of species there, no longer breeding.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

I suspect the Roloways and Diana might stick around a bit longer than other species, but I don't expect Twycross will keep hold of either in the long term. Diana in general is on a knife-edge in the UK I fear.

 

[Pertinax]

Yes, I would think the singles will be first to go. Also the IOW place would have to build more enclosures to take more, they recently gained half a dozen Barbary Macaques from Europe. I think Twycross are eminently sensible to reduce their primate numbers slightly by sifting out any no-hopers.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Indeed - my thinking is that if that place loses their old Red-tailed Guenon that would leave room for another singleton.

I expect they will keep on building at a decent pace in any case, I believe they have a fair bit of undeveloped land at their disposal.

 

[Jane Doe]

Sorry Tea Loving Dave I have spoken to someone that knows and they HAVE NOT GOT any land to develop on Boardman made sure of that the land they brought off Mr Parks in Miss B & E's days is only allowed to be used as extra parking e.g. bank holiday the person I was talking to said you are talking out of your bottom.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Sorry Tea Loving Dave I have spoken to someone that knows and they HAVE NOT GOT any land to develop on Boardman made sure of that the land they brought off Mr Parks in Miss B & E's days is only allowed to be used as extra parking e.g. bank holiday the person I was talking to said you are talking out of your bottom.

Unless Susie Boardman has somehow gone back in time and gotten involved at Owl and Monkey Haven on the Isle of Wight - which is the collection myself and Pertinax are speculating might receive some surplus animals from Twycross, as they have done so in the past - then you have entirely got the wrong end of the stick

Said collection on the Isle of Wight, if you actually *read* the comments above, recently completed a development for Barbary Macaques and Pertinax noted they would need to build enclosures in order to receive further animals from Twycross - hence my comment about there being space to expand.

 

[zoogiraffe]

And maybe also as a phase-out perhaps the Roloways and/or Dianas?- they are ancient and like quite a lot of species there, no longer breeding.

The Roloway is suppose to be leaving for Mulhouse before the end of the year if what I have been told is correct!

 

[Chlidonias]

Unless Susie Boardman has somehow gone back in time and gotten involved at Owl and Monkey Haven on the Isle of Wight - which is the collection myself and Pertinax are speculating might receive some surplus animals from Twycross, as they have done so in the past - then you have entirely got the wrong end of the stick

Said collection on the Isle of Wight, if you actually *read* the comments above, recently completed a development for Barbary Macaques and Pertinax noted they would need to build enclosures in order to receive further animals from Twycross - hence my comment about there being space to expand.

to be fair it wasn't completely clear from the thread which collections were being referred to with the post about extra land (especially if not familiar with one or the other), and I can see how there could have been confusion.

 

[Pertinax]

the person I was talking to said you are talking out of your bottom.

TLD was not talking 'out of his bottom', he was not referring to Twycross at all, but to the Isle of Wight Monkey Sanctuary which does have undeveloped land and would (probably) need to build more enclosures to house any further Primates. Although it might have not been 100% clear, if you read the gist of the preceding posts, it seems fairly obvious which place he was talking about.

 

[Pertinax]

The Roloway is suppose to be leaving for Mulhouse before the end of the year if what I have been told is correct!

Only one now? Good news if correct. Mulhouse breed them (occasionally) so better if it could still contribute or at least live with conspecifics than living solitary in a 'sanctuary' or similar.

 

[pipaluk]

TLD was not talking 'out of his bottom', he was not referring to Twycross at all, but to the Isle of Wight Monkey Sanctuary which does have undeveloped land and would (probably) need to build more enclosures to house any further Primates. Although it might have not been 100% clear, if you read the gist of the preceding posts, it seems fairly obvious which place he was talking about.

I agree, it seemed obvious enough to me!

 

[zoogiraffe]

Only one now? Good news if correct. Mulhouse breed them (occasionally) so better if it could still contribute or at least live with conspecifics than living solitary in a 'sanctuary' or similar.

They have only had 1 for atleast 12 months!