Longleat Safari & Adventure Park Unatural mixing

Cat-Man

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I have been to longleat 2 times and have noticed unatural mixing,
what do people think about it
 
Species from different parts of the world living together

Maybe if you highlighted some examples, for people to dicuss about it may help.

From what I remeber there was only one Bactrian Camels in with White rhino and ankole cattle!
 
also - llamas, giraffes and domedary camels

pere david deer, eland and white rhino
 
From an educational point of view it is silly, Like I believe all those animals live in a section known as Africa? maybe im wrong? anyway visitors will not realise that llamas dont roam the African plains. However from a management point of view the space the animals get is fantastic and most hoofstock will graze in mix groups herds in the wild so I wouldnt say the animals mind their unusual company!
 
the area is east african reserve and big game reserve and yes it has a very bad educational stucture!
 
Yeah, that's bothered me a bit. Personally, if I was in charge there, I would:

- Remove the Camels & Llama from EAGR. Replace them with the Scimitar-Horned Oryc from BGP and Nyala. Move pygmy goats to Pets Corner or Animal Adventure then adapt the exhibit for cheetahs.
- Expand the current tapir enclosure to take up half the grassy land behind the EAGR, also mixing rhea, capybara and anteater with the tapirs. Use the second half as a paddock for spectacled bears, creating a South American area.
- Mix Elephant & Okapi with the bongo, creating a Congo forest.
- Move out the Camels & Pere David's deer from BGP, withe the Oryx going to the EAGR. Replace with the Eland, Wildebeest, Kudu & Bontebok.
- Move out the Red & Fallow Deer into a new deer park just outside Longleat House, creating a more scenic setting. Move the Camels & Pere David's deer from BGP here, along with Bison & Prezwalski's Horse, creating a Eurasian Reserve.
- Mix the Flamingoes, Ibis, Spoonbills and Ducks with the pelicans, in order to give the elephants a pool. Add marabou stork to create an even larger African Wetlands aviary.

As you can see, this would give Longleat a much more educational value. However, it is of course a visitor vision, so it would be very unlikely, but still provides a better insight.
 
I get your points, guys, and support them on principle of course. But the reality is that 99% of the zoo visitors would neither notice nore care. So if the unnatural mixing actually works and is benefitting to the animals, I would not consider it a major problem.
 
Yeah why make all zoos the same? I suppose the mixes add character to the place. plus why would they bring in Elephants when they have just got rid of them and good luck to them getting Okapi! Id have more chance of winning the lottery.
 
Yeah why make all zoos the same? I suppose the mixes add character to the place. plus why would they bring in Elephants when they have just got rid of them and good luck to them getting Okapi! Id have more chance of winning the lottery.

marwell darlek was refering to what they would do if they were in charge not what longleat is palnning!
 
is anyone else getting annoyed with people who keep turning legitimate threads into fantasy "this is what I would do...", or is it just me?
 
Think that was obvious! however I would really hate to see every zoo with the exact same species displayed in the same way. then we would only have to go to one zoo and we would have seen them all!

Some zoos def should retain their common animals, how boring would it be if every zoo had just okapi, gorrillas, sumatran tigers and sun bears laid out in the same way. I love going to zoos to see an animal that I have seen before no matter how common they are! It seems that the "common" animals are becoming quite a rarity in UK zoos. I saw my first black bear last year when I visited woburn, also longleat are one of the few places to exhibit rhesus monkeys! are we going to loose the animals that were really the foundations of most modern zoos?
 
is anyone else getting annoyed with people who keep turning legitimate threads into fantasy "this is what I would do...", or is it just me?

a seperate thread would be the best idea for fantasy idea's, they just confuse normal threads
 
Alright, I'm sorry. I was only laying out ways that would make more educationaly trusting reserves, and sorry if it caused any confusion.
 
the thing is it is happening a LOT on this UK forum and it is consistently the same few people doing it. If someone wants to start a thread on something imaginary that's up to them (although personally I think it should go somewhere other than the country forums; maybe in the Zoo Cafe section), but their fantasies shouldn't be tagged onto a thread that is about real life events. Sometimes its obvious what is meant as fantasy but not always and there have been several instances where other members have become confused as to what is real and what is imaginary (or guesswork, as the case may be).
Sorry if this sounds harsh.
 
is anyone else getting annoyed with people who keep turning legitimate threads into fantasy "this is what I would do...", or is it just me?

erm...so why do we have a vision for chester and london zoo threads then?

this site is for discussion of what really is happening and also what we would like to happen

dalek maybe make it more clear next time!
 
erm...so why do we have a vision for chester and london zoo threads then?

this site is for discussion of what really is happening and also what we would like to happen

dalek maybe make it more clear next time!

Because in those threads the word "personal" is tagged onto the title (I also stress that it is not official loads of times in the first post of that thread), therefore alerting everyone who reads it that it is not official.

It's a different situation that someone just tagging on ideas onto a thread about a real situation
 
Marwell Dalek made it a lot more clear than what some others tend to do in other threads.

As far as the mixings go, it doesnt really bother me that much. But perhaps it would be better if the park could move a few species about though.
 
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