It looks like the Blackfish controversy continues to affect SeaWorld.
A world of trouble for SeaWorld - The Washington Post
A world of trouble for SeaWorld - The Washington Post
SeaWorld San Diego The CEO of SeaWorld resigns
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wensleydale
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I posted about this yesterday. I wonder if SeaWorld might ultimately have grounds to sue over blackfish. I mean this from a strictly legal perspective of course.
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I'm sure that they would have sued long ago if they thought it would do any good.
The problem is that Blackfish never fully upfront and outright lies about Seaworld, it just gives off multiple misunderstandings. For example yes Seaworld did separate Kalina along with Takara, however during that sequence it shows two pictures of trainers surrounding a newborn calf, implying that they were separated at a cery, very young age. In reality Kalina was 4 and Takara was 12 and had a calf herself. What sounds worse? Separating a 12 year old, or separating a newborn? The film also goes on to say that Katina screamed out for her babies in desparate need to see them.... through her mouth. Orcas do not have vocal cords so that possibility is ruled out. During that scene though they then show two orcas "screaming", Kohana, and Kasatka, not Katina. So they may lie about orca anatomy and indirectly lie to the audience about those orcas' ages but none of which that actually are directed to give Seaworld the blame.
Sort of off-topic, but I had no idea about Kalina and Takara's actual ages during this sequence, which completely proves to me that this movie is not only misleading,but thoroughly so,as I'd done a fair amount of research,but I'd never heard that bit of information. Thank you for sharing.
One of the best articles yet on SeaWorld's struggles since the documentary was released. An attendance drop of 500,000 visitors in a single year is probably unheard of anywhere in the world of zoos.
SeaWorld copes amid PETA pressure on whales
SeaWorld copes amid PETA pressure on whales
I almost wonder if they could save money by getting rid of their polar bears. With zoos opening new polar bear exhibits and not enough polar bears to go around, perhaps sending the two females to a zoo with a new exhibit would help out. Plus it would most likely be a better exhibit than what they are in right now. Also, the females both have experiences with moves as they have been moving back and forth to Pittsburgh for the past couple of years.
I doubt it will happen, but it's my selfish wish.
I doubt it will happen, but it's my selfish wish.
I think that'd be a good idea, either that or remodeling Wild Arctic,since the beluga exhibit feels a little on the smaller side
Zooplantman
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I read that as all the parks.
But just the three Seaworlds?
Or Busch Gardens, Discovery Cove, etc as well?
In any case, almost a 6% drop. Not unheard of. Not catastrophic.
But certainly a serious budget problem.
Attendance down at Buffalo Zoo | wivb.com
Toronto Zoo revenues down $8.3 million despite pandas’ arrival | Toronto Star
Zoo attendance, revenues decline as temperatures rise - News Sentinel Story
etc.
wensleydale
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I always thought that the Panda's would be financially foolish decision for Toronto, what with the rental fees alone being enormous, then the need to pay for their exhibit, upkeep, etc. But getting back to the subject, I was wondering does SeaWorld have a history of keeping its revenues up even when other zoos are suffering or do they tend to have revenues dip when everyone else does?
Zooplantman
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I haven't followed their finances, yet I expect it is hard to compare SeaWorld (with several parks around the country) with other facilities. Much of annual attendance fluctuations always depends on local weather, new attractions, attraction-making births, etc. So zoos in one locale may have a bad year if the weather worked against them, while zoos 1 few hundred miles away have a great year. And of course all of this is on top of regional tends and larger national economic trends affecting "stay-cations", vacations, disposable income, etc.
The founder of "Sea Shepherd" thinks he could run Sea World better; have a look at what he thinks should be done 
If I Were CEO of SeaWorld - Sea Shepherd Conservation Society
From the above article:
If I Were CEO of SeaWorld - Sea Shepherd Conservation Society
From the above article:
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Zooplantman
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Wow, is that ever a waste of language.
When do the war crime trials commence?
It is one thing to criticize SeaWorld's handling of its animals, but carrying that to this slavery equivalency is mere hyperbole. I trust he advocates that all farm animals, domesticated animals, etc. be released into "the wild."
I don't like the look in my dog's eyes. She's plotting something rebellious.........
When do the war crime trials commence?
It is one thing to criticize SeaWorld's handling of its animals, but carrying that to this slavery equivalency is mere hyperbole. I trust he advocates that all farm animals, domesticated animals, etc. be released into "the wild."
I don't like the look in my dog's eyes. She's plotting something rebellious.........
wensleydale
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The founder of "Sea Shepherd" thinks he could run Sea World better; have a look at what he thinks should be done
If I Were CEO of SeaWorld - Sea Shepherd Conservation Society
From the above article:
I am so sick of people trying to outlaw things just because it doesn't appeal to their moral tastebuds. I could go on and on poking holes in what he said, and maybe I will, but I have a feeling that right now isn't a good time for a rant.
I read an interesting paper a few month ago by an academic, it suggested that really this type of animal rights serves as a substitute for religion. I'll try and dig it up and post a link on it.
animal rights advocates are irrational emotional cripples. They are not tuned into the rational world where humans will always exploit flora and fauna for their selfish wants. I am an omnivore and eat both flora and fauna. If I were a vegan I would have an herbivore morphology like a cow or elephant . The number one problem on planet earth is human self survival greed and overpopulation especially in tropical countries. Political and world leaders will not speak about this reality because it challenges moral, political and religious values.
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An IMAX tour of our oceans....I'm fairly certain that's been done before,and how would that be better in any way than the current business model? And do they seriously think SeaWorld (or any amusement park or zoo for that matter) can just take possession of a fjord or cove just like that?
The point that is being made is that SeaWorld can just get rid of all of its animals and instead just show videos of them. People would then be expected to be just as excited about seeing a real animal as a video of one!
If that was the case no one would ever go to zoos but just go to cinemas instead, if people wanted to see a video of an animal then they would buy a DVD, watch TV or go to a cinema!!!Absolutely agree: What a nonsense, what a stupid idea. Why should anyone paying a (high) entrance fee for just looking animals on a screen and not real ones (no matter how great a location for that might be). If Sea World get rid off their animals (specially their killer whales and dolphins) this will be the end of that institution (and the animal rights activists will triumphate/celebrate).
Every social media site is used to spread propaganda against SeaWorld and unfortunately I'm in the mix of it all as a SeaWorld defender (it isn't going well). Every anti SeaWorld advocate has it stubbornly stuck in their mind that if SW were to shut down that every one or their thousands of animals will be blatantly dumped into the ocean within 5 seconds of their closing. With about 40 marine institutions in the US and many more around the world that contain cetaceans, something simply tells me that they won't touch an ocean, they'll just be transferred to those places - worse places including.
If SeaWorld were to close down I'd say it's not likely the animals would go to a U.S. institution, since the backlash of keeping orcas would not be worth it. I'd say it's far more likely that China and Russia,who have current interests in keeping orcas, would try to purchase the orcas and keep them in a much smaller tank that would make even SeaWorld's current tank seem like an absolute paradise.