Auckland Zoo orangutans

Wow that's an great site, good on you for making that.

To reply to previous threads:

Horst is the father of Datuk, Intan and Isim. Christine refers to Horst as the father of Isim in This is Your Life: Indra in 2008.

Charlie was the father of Dara's second offspring in 2000 but she died soon after birth. Charlie has since fathered a second offspring to Melur, their son Madju was born 2005. In my opinion, Isim and Gangsa should be allowed to breed as their enclosure can easily accomodate a third orangutan. A transfer to overseas zoo's could also be an option to give these animals a chance to breed.
 
A complete history of Auckland Zoo's orangutans:

Auckland Zoo's first three orangutans arrived in the 1920s:

Unnamed (Bornean male)
Arrived Dec 1924
Died Jan 1925

Unnamed (Bornean female)
Arrived Dec 1924
Died Jun 1927

Unnamed (Bornean male)
Arrived Jan 1926
Died Jun 1928


The zoo's next orangutan was a sumatran female, named Ginger Rodgers. She arrived in late 1939 and died in June 1943 of an inoperable disease.


In the 1950s, Auckland Zoo imported two sumatran orangutans from Taronga Zoo:

Turvey (Sumatran male)
Wildborn 1954 approx
Arrived 11 Dep 1956 (Via Taronga Zoo)
Died 16 Jun 1971

Topsey (Sumatran female)
Wildborn 1954 approx
Arrived 11 Dec 1956 (Via Taronga Zoo)
Died 9 Nov 1968

Topsey gave birth to a baby of unknown gender on 29 May 1967. It was stillborn.


In August 1983, three Bornean orangutans were imported:

Dara (Bornean female)
Born 16 Jun 1977 Frankfurt Zoo

Horst (Bornean male)
Born 31 Jan 1978 Frankfurt Zoo

Indra (Bornean female)
Born 7 Sep 1980 Rotterdam Zoo

In March 1984, a fourth Bornean orangutan was imported:

Charlie (Bornean male)
Born 21 Mar 1981 Singapore Zoo

From this group of four, there were four births:

Intan (Bornean female)
Born 17 Mar 1989 to Indra and Horst

Datuk (Bornean male)
Born 18 May 1989 to Dara and Horst
Exported to Taronga Zoo 13 Dec 1996, where he died 4 April 1998

Isim (Bornean male)
Born 15 Jun 1994 to Indra and Horst

Darli (Bornean female)
Born 22 Jun 2000 to Dara and Charlie
Died 24 Jun 2000

Dara died 25 June 2000 from a septaceamia infection contracted during childbirth.


On 6 March 2001, three orangutans arrived from Taronga Zoo:

Wanita (Hybrid female)
Born 23 Mar 1979 Taronga Zoo

Melur (Bornean female)
Born 11 Jun 1988 Hong Kong Zoo

Gangsa (Bornean female)
Born 31 Dec 1989 Hong Kong Zoo

From this import, there have been two births:

Unnamed (Bornean female)
Born 8 Aug 2002 to Melur and Unknown
Died 8 Aug 2002

Madju (Bornean male)
Born 9 Nov 2005 to Melur and Charlie


Horst, Indra and Intan were exported to Busch Gardens, Tampa Bay, Florida on 26 July 2009. Intan was then sent to the Los Angeles Zoo on 7 June 2011, and then the Kansas Zoo on 5 November 2013, where she died 12 December 2013.

Isim, Gangsa and Madju are scheduled to leave for the Los Angeles Zoo on 12 November 2015. Isim and Gangsa will remain there, while Madju will be transferred to Busch Gardens, Tampa Bay, Florida, following a one month quarantine period.

This will leave Auckland Zoo with two Bornean orangutans: Charlie (1981) and Melur (1988), and one Hybrid: Wanita (1979).
 
A complete history of Auckland Zoo's orangutans:

Auckland Zoo's first three orangutans arrived in the 1920s:

Unnamed (Bornean male)
Arrived Dec 1924
Died Jan 1925

Unnamed (Bornean female)
Arrived Dec 1924
Died Jun 1927

Unnamed (Bornean male)
Arrived Jan 1926
Died Jun 1928


The zoo's next orangutan was a sumatran female, named Ginger Rodgers. She arrived in late 1939 and died in June 1943 of an inoperable disease.


In the 1950s, Auckland Zoo imported two sumatran orangutans from Taronga Zoo:

Turvey (Sumatran male)
Wildborn 1954 approx
Arrived 11 Dep 1956 (Via Taronga Zoo)
Died 16 Jun 1971

Topsey (Sumatran female)
Wildborn 1954 approx
Arrived 11 Dec 1956 (Via Taronga Zoo)
Died 9 Nov 1968

Topsey gave birth to a baby of unknown gender on 29 May 1967. It was stillborn.


In August 1983, three Bornean orangutans were imported:

Dara (Bornean female)
Born 16 Jun 1977 Frankfurt Zoo

Horst (Bornean male)
Born 31 Jan 1978 Frankfurt Zoo

Indra (Bornean female)
Born 7 Sep 1980 Rotterdam Zoo

In March 1984, a fourth Bornean orangutan was imported:

Charlie (Bornean male)
Born 21 Mar 1981 Singapore Zoo

From this group of four, there were four births:

Intan (Bornean female)
Born 17 Mar 1989 to Indra and Horst

Datuk (Bornean male)
Born 18 May 1989 to Dara and Horst
Exported to Taronga Zoo 13 Dec 1996, where he died 4 April 1998

Isim (Bornean male)
Born 15 Jun 1994 to Indra and Horst

Darli (Bornean female)
Born 22 Jun 2000 to Dara and Charlie
Died 24 Jun 2000

Dara died 25 June 2000 from a septaceamia infection contracted during childbirth.


On 6 March 2001, three orangutans arrived from Taronga Zoo:

Wanita (Hybrid female)
Born 23 Mar 1979 Taronga Zoo

Melur (Bornean female)
Born 11 Jun 1988 Hong Kong Zoo

Gangsa (Bornean female)
Born 31 Dec 1989 Hong Kong Zoo

From this import, there have been two births:

Unnamed (Bornean female)
Born 8 Aug 2002 to Melur and Unknown
Died 8 Aug 2002

Madju (Bornean male)
Born 9 Nov 2005 to Melur and Charlie


Horst, Indra and Intan were exported to Busch Gardens, Tampa Bay, Florida on 26 July 2009. Intan was then sent to the Los Angeles Zoo on 7 June 2011, and then the Kansas Zoo on 5 November 2013, where she died 12 December 2013.

Isim, Gangsa and Madju are scheduled to leave for the Los Angeles Zoo on 12 November 2015. Isim and Gangsa will remain there, while Madju will be transferred to Busch Gardens, Tampa Bay, Florida, following a one month quarantine period.

This will leave Auckland Zoo with two Bornean orangutans: Charlie (1981) and Melur (1988), and one Hybrid: Wanita (1979).

What are the plans for the remaining 3 orangs?
OR: Will they also be exported?
 
Additional Information...for your entertainment

Topsy and Turvey were part of a group of wildborn Sumatran orangutans imported by Taronga Zoo in 1956. While Topsy and Turvey were sent to Auckland, following quarantine, the other three: Charlie (M), Helen (F) and Leslie (F) remained at Taronga Zoo. Helen is the grandmother of Wanita: Helen (1949-1970) > Wendy (1961-2001) > Wanita (1979).

Wanita's mother, Wendy, had four offspring. The youngest is called Willow and was born 9 May 1985. She is a hybrid like Wanita, and is the last of her family at Taronga Zoo. She and a hybrid male will be transferred next year to Orana Wildlife Park.

Auckland Zoo is the only zoo in New Zealand to have ever held orangutans. The first birth was a stillborn Sumatran orangutan in 1967; the first survivng birth was a female Bornean orangutan in 1989.

Wanita is 3/4 Bornean. Her hybrid status derives from her Sumatran grandmother. Her grandfather and father are purebred Borneans. Because she is a hybrid, Wanita has never been allowed to breed. She has had a partial hysterectomy. The Auckland Zoo males have never shown much interest in Wanita.

Dara, Horst, Indra and Charlie were intially housed together. Horst and Charlie were spearated when Horst showed aggression to the younger male as they matured. Charlie in turn, became aggressive to Isim as he matured, leading to his removal from the main group when Isim was 12.

Charlie's favourite female is Gangsa. The are not housed together due to Charlie and Isim having to be housed spearate, and due to conflict between the females.

Gangsa showed sustained aggression towards Melur, at one point seriously injuring her, leading to Gangsa being placed with the subgroup, Isim and Wanita. Isim and Gangsa then attacked Wanita, injuring her, so Wanita was placed back with Charlie, Melur and Madju. It is thought Gangsa is jealous at having to compete with other females for male attention. Wanita is dominant to Melur, who is very submissive.
Charlie is fond of Melur and dislikes being separated from her. He is indifferent to being separated from Wanita.

Melur is the most independent of the females, preferring her own company, or Madju's company. She is a very tolerant and caring mother to Madju, and not as assertive with her offspring as Indra was with Intan and Isim.

The first orangutans housed at Auckland Zoo were nameless, a practice still not uncommon in many modern day non Western zoos. Most of the group have Malay names:

Wanita - woman
Melur - jasmine
Gangsa - bronze
Madju - to progress

Isim is named after a river in Borneo. Charlie was named after Prince Charles by keepers at the Singapore Zoo in 1981.

Melur and Gangsa are paternal half-sisters. Their father, Laki, was born 16 August 1974 at London Zoo.

Auckland Zoo expressed concern Melur had never seen a mother orangutan nursing a baby, and may reject her first offspring. In fact, Melur's mother gave birth to her younger brother, Taufan in 1993, while Gangsa's mother gave birth to her daughter, Merah, in 1994. Melur was at the Hong Kong Zoo until 1995 and would have witnessed the rasing of both these infants.

Dara and Horst share a father, Karl. He was born 1961 in the wild. This means Dara and Horst's son, Datuk, was inbred, and may be why Auckland Zoo chose Charlie to breed with Dara when she had her second offspring in 2000.

Darli's birth featured on the Greenstone Production Zoo Babies episode. It covered Dara's pregnancy and birth, and the death two days later, of Dara and Darli. It incorrectly claimed Dara had an 11 year old son, Datuk, at Taronga Zoo. He had passed away two years earlier.
This necessitated the transfer of Wanita, Melur and Gangsa in 2001. Indra missed the company of Dara, and was overwhelmed by the attention of Horst and Charlie; Melur and Gangsa were without a mate, following Datuk's death.

Auckland Musuem has two stuffed orangutans. Ginger Rodgers (Died 1943) and Darli (Died 2000).

Twins run in Melur's family. Her sister, Raba (1996), gave birth to male-female twins in 2011.

Charlie's father Zabu (1961-2008) fathered 22 offspring between 1975 and 2008; Horst's father Karl (1961-2012) fathered 19 offspring between 1971 and 2006. A large proportion of Karl's offspring died prematurely. Two of Horst's offspring died young: Datuk at age 9 and Intan at age 24.
 
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To answer your question, Kifaru Bwana, I believe Auckland Zoo will be looking to export Charlie and Melur in the immediate future. In 2012, there were plans to export Isim and Gangsa to a zoo in Turkey, so maybe they will go there. I think it is more likely they will head to the USA as there is a demand for them in their breeding programmes. Isim, Gangsa and Madju were probably given preference as none of them have bred yet, and are unrepresented.

It is in my opinion that Wanita will likely go to Orana Wildlife Park when her sister is transferred there next year. As a hybrid, no zoo outside of the region would pay the transport costs to aquire her, and since she and Melur at best tolerate each other, there is no reason they can't be separated if/when Melur is sent overseas. Of course, I don't know for sure, so we will have to wait and see.
 
Zoofan15 said:
Auckland Zoo is the only zoo in New Zealand to have ever held orangutans.
Wellington had an adult male named Jimmy, well-known for biting off the finger of a keeper. He was an ex-circus animal (from Wirth's Circus in Australia) and came to Wellington Zoo in April 1960. He died there in May 1962.

[Small typo, also - Topsey and Turvey came to Auckland in September 1956, not December]
 
Wellington had an adult male named Jimmy, well-known for biting off the finger of a keeper. He was an ex-circus animal (from Wirth's Circus in Australia) and came to Wellington Zoo in April 1960. He died there in May 1962.

[Small typo, also - Topsey and Turvey came to Auckland in September 1956, not December]


Thank you for those corrections. I don't know how I forgot Jimmy when I was only reading about him last week! :o I wonder why Wellington never persisted with orangutans. I see from records Jimmy was the only one of his species. Their chimpanzee breeding programme kicked off around the start of the 1960s so maybe they decided to dedicate all space to them.
 
I hope they make the exhibit a free-range style similar to Singapore Zoo


Singapore have an amazing exhibit. It's far more stimulating for the orangutans compared to what they have at Auckland.

I've heard there will be major rennovations, so whether the three remaining orangutans will move into the smaller enclosure to allow the demolition of the main enclosure, and the reconstruction of something new in 2017, remains to be seen. I hope major rennovations won't consist of a new climbing structure and a new tree!
 
Singapore have an amazing exhibit. It's far more stimulating for the orangutans compared to what they have at Auckland.

I've heard there will be major rennovations, so whether the three remaining orangutans will move into the smaller enclosure to allow the demolition of the main enclosure, and the reconstruction of something new in 2017, remains to be seen. I hope major rennovations won't consist of a new climbing structure and a new tree!

I'm sure the renovations will be extremely major - I would be surprised if anything of the current enclosures is retained. But I'm equally sure they aren't going to have free-range Orangutans like Singapore does. I am hoping for elevated/tree-top viewing though, and hopefully additional SE Asian species. With the meerkats moving to Pridelands, they have quite alot of spare space to link up to the tiger exhibits nicely, and create a little Sumatran jungle themed area.
 
I'm sure the renovations will be extremely major - I would be surprised if anything of the current enclosures is retained. But I'm equally sure they aren't going to have free-range Orangutans like Singapore does. I am hoping for elevated/tree-top viewing though, and hopefully additional SE Asian species. With the meerkats moving to Pridelands, they have quite alot of spare space to link up to the tiger exhibits nicely, and create a little Sumatran jungle themed area.

I think it's been suggested before, but why not move the siamangs (the only South East Asian animals) out of the Rainforest precinct, and create a South American precinct. They're 95% there, with the link to the tropics (alligators) etc.

I'm guessing the Sumatran orangutans won't be arriving until at least 2017 when the rennovations are complete, but I hope there is enough space for breeding. I read an article recently that said Australasian zoos are advised to provide young orangutans with playmates of the same age, something that was said to have not been possible with Madju, due to space limitations. I think the phase out of the Bornean subspecies played a greater factor in this, as the zoo had two infants born in 1989, and a third born in 1994, but obviously this will be something to consider.

Then it'll be interesting to see where the new orangutans are sourced from. Perth Zoo would be an obvious source for either females OR a breeding male. Let us not have a repeat of last time (Dara and Horst)....
 
I think it's been suggested before, but why not move the siamangs (the only South East Asian animals) out of the Rainforest precinct, and create a South American precinct. They're 95% there, with the link to the tropics (alligators) etc.

I'm guessing the Sumatran orangutans won't be arriving until at least 2017 when the rennovations are complete, but I hope there is enough space for breeding. I read an article recently that said Australasian zoos are advised to provide young orangutans with playmates of the same age, something that was said to have not been possible with Madju, due to space limitations. I think the phase out of the Bornean subspecies played a greater factor in this, as the zoo had two infants born in 1989, and a third born in 1994, but obviously this will be something to consider.

Then it'll be interesting to see where the new orangutans are sourced from. Perth Zoo would be an obvious source for either females OR a breeding male. Let us not have a repeat of last time (Dara and Horst)....

I think housing Siamangs in the area would be ideal, perhaps they could even put the macaques back on show? And maybe capuchins would be a good addition to the South American Tropics area to replace the Siamangs?

I'd hope they would import new blood from outside the region too, maybe Singapore if not Europe.
 
I think housing Siamangs in the area would be ideal, perhaps they could even put the macaques back on show? And maybe capuchins would be a good addition to the South American Tropics area to replace the Siamangs?

I'd hope they would import new blood from outside the region too, maybe Singapore if not Europe.

Reinstating the macaques would be good. They used to have Barbary and Pygmy macaques right? The siamang have a medium sized enclosure, which would be more than adequate for capuchins.

If I were to take a guess, only one male sumatran will be imported, along with two females of adolescent/breeding age. I think Auckland probably regretted importing two male Borneans, when management of them became an issue. Importing only one male sumatran, could mean the space that would have been taken up by the additional male, could be used to house his male offspring until export. If they imported new bloodlines from Singapore/Europe, male offspring could even be desirable for export to Perth in time.
 
Reinstating the macaques would be good. They used to have Barbary and Pygmy macaques right? The siamang have a medium sized enclosure, which would be more than adequate for capuchins.

If I were to take a guess, only one male sumatran will be imported, along with two females of adolescent/breeding age. I think Auckland probably regretted importing two male Borneans, when management of them became an issue. Importing only one male sumatran, could mean the space that would have been taken up by the additional male, could be used to house his male offspring until export. If they imported new bloodlines from Singapore/Europe, male offspring could even be desirable for export to Perth in time.

Auckland have Bonnet Macaques. Although they had many other species in the past, they have only held that species for at least the last ten years (probably much longer). In 1992 they also had Pig-tailed.
 
Auckland have Bonnet Macaques. Although they had many other species in the past, they have only held that species for at least the last ten years (probably much longer). In 1992 they also had Pig-tailed.

Thanks for that, I knew it was a B and a P species! I believe they still had the Pig-tailed at least as recently as 2003. I read last night on here, that the Bonnet Macaques (the only macaques in Australasia) are on the phase out list. Not sure if this is still the case, but assuming it is. It's a shame, they make an interesting exhibit.
 
Thanks for that, I knew it was a B and a P species! I believe they still had the Pig-tailed at least as recently as 2003. I read last night on here, that the Bonnet Macaques (the only macaques in Australasia) are on the phase out list. Not sure if this is still the case, but assuming it is. It's a shame, they make an interesting exhibit.
there are a number of macaque species in Australasia (check the stickied mammal lists in the forums).

The bonnets at Auckland are all ancient, and are basically just being looked after until they pass on.
 
Orana Wildlife Park will be getting Sumatran orangutans this year, according to their website:

Orana Wildlife Park :: NZ's only gorillas

"The original plan was to create a Gorilla Habitat, however the construction delays resulted in a revision of the concept. Through extensive expert consultation the finished habitat enables Orana to hold two species of critically endangered great apes (in separate habitats within the one complex). Sumatran orang-utans will be transferred to Orana during 2016."

No further info as yet on the number of orangutans they plan to hold, or the source.
 
It was originally thought that Taronga's orangs were going to be exported their but now it looks like they have changed their mind.Their is still a chance though that Orana could receive Aucklands when they are replaced by Sumatrans with their new development Wild Asia.

BennettL
 
It'll be interesting to see where they go. I think the most likely scenario is Auckland Zoo's hybrid, Wanita, joining her sister Willow and Taronga Zoo’s other hybrid, Jantan at Mogo Zoo as no accredited zoo outside the region would allocate funds for importing a hybrid from overseas.

Auckland Zoo’s purebred Borneans could be of use in breeding programmes in the United States, so I think that is there most likely destination. It’s possible they may stay at Orana on route to free up space for renovations at Auckland Zoo but since Orana have announced plans to acquire Sumatran orangutans, Borneans are obviously not in their long term plans.
 
It'll be interesting to see where they go. I think the most likely scenario is Auckland Zoo's hybrid, Wanita, joining her sister Willow and Taronga Zoo’s other hybrid, Jantan at Mogo Zoo as no accredited zoo outside the region would allocate funds for importing a hybrid from overseas.

Auckland Zoo’s purebred Borneans could be of use in breeding programmes in the United States, so I think that is there most likely destination. It’s possible they may stay at Orana on route to free up space for renovations at Auckland Zoo but since Orana have announced plans to acquire Sumatran orangutans, Borneans are obviously not in their long term plans.

They are most likely to be exported a month or so before construction starts for Wild Asia.Though since they haven't selected a zoo for them to be exported too it is likely they will be off display when construction starts.Since Charlie is now 36 he is unlikely to breed anymore so he won't be needed for a breeding program.With Madju and Isim in the US his bloodlines are soon to be well represented.Melur will be 29 but with her son Madju she isn't really needed.I think Mogo is best option if to stay in Aus.

BennettL
 
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