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"Bai" panoramic view

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Panoramic view of "bai" at bioparc formed joining 2 pictures
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in the "bai" 1.2 gorillas "breeding group", and 1.0 alone,(first one of a bachelor group) 2.0 young sitatungas, 1 male of owl-faced monkey and maybe, 1 female (but not sure for the sex), 1 de Brazza monkey (I´m not sure but male I think, because i remember he is named "Ramón" or other similar name) and at least 6 white-crowned mangabeys, including a baby.
 
Keeper, thanks for the information. It's absurd the gorillas don't have any climbing structures and a lack of shade! The EEP allways says they only approve a new gorilla enclosure when all the conditions are 100% okay. How is it possible they authorised this? If you have more pictures of the enclosure I would love to see them.
 
Yes, I know that, and no understand why it´s occurs, apparently this enclosure "it´s the best" but for my need much more shade zones and, of course, climbing structures.
 
One of the things I am worried about with this enclosure is the apparent lack of opportunities for the various species exhibited here to adequately avoid interspecific aggression.

I am interested in whether this is just a misconception of mine perpetuated by the small total area covered in this photograph.
 
its not just the gorillas that have nothing to climb, in an exhibit with so many primate species you think they would put some dead trees or something in there!
 
In the big exhibit: 1.2 Western lowland Gorilla
0.2 Sitatunga
2.2.1 White naped Mangabey
1.1 Owl faced monkey
1.1 Abisinian hornbill

In the small exhibit:
1.0 Western lowland Gorilla
1.0 deBrazza guenon
1.0 White naped Mangabey
 
it is remarkably bare, considering they've made a big effort to have several species living together and that part seems to work- but there seems nothing for these forest monkeys(and gorillas) to climb on at all and its very featureless.

hopefully the vegetation will grow in time. One thing is that in nature 'Bai's'
tend to be flat marshy areas whereas this is a sort of ridge, no doubt to make better viewing for the public. Still, it is a bold attempt at mixing species.
 
All the primates in this enclosure are(at least partially) Forest-dwellers- the Gorillas, Owl- faced, De Brazza(?) and the Mangabeys. Yet there is no climbing structure at least in this part of the enclosure, let alone any attempt at planting a 'forest feel' apart from 3 sapling trees. Not sure how they got EEP approval to keep these various monkeys in here like this. The rare Hamlyn's in particular would be safer placed alone where they might breed- I think they are too rare to 'waste' in a mixed exhibit like this.
 
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Basically I agree with you in the lack of shade, but not totally in the lack of climbing opportunities, they should have more trees, or climb structures, but the young gorillas have shown that they can get away with eucalyptus trees, I can't seen the owl-faced monkeys for a few months ago, perhaps they are no longer present in the zoo (I hope I'm wrong on this point) or they are moved for another enclosure, (I don't know which) as has happened with the gorillas (Mambi and Fossey) and mangabeys and sitatungas ...
 
Yet there is no climbing structure at least in this part of the enclosure, let alone any attempt at planting a 'forest feel' apart from 3 sapling trees.

The post identifies the exhibit as a bai, but it doesn't appear to represent that either (a bai is a sort of tall grass swamp found within the forest)
 

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