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Barasingha or Sambar

Can anybody better at ID'ing deer species help me out with this one - I watched more Lion King than Bambi when I was young, which is my way of saying I know far more antelope than deer :p
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Maguari said:
West Mids do have Sambar in this paddock as well - they are also kept at Port Lympne.

Was this taken at Port Lymne or West Midlands?:confused:

Agree with Cyrildacat's I.D.;

Sambar(winter coat) Barasingha(stag, summer coat) Sambar(winter coat), Nilgai.

Sambar are darker brown than Barasingha, only Barasingha has orangey summer pelage.
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Maguari
Pertinax said:
Was this taken at Port Lymne or West Midlands?:confused:

Agree with Cyrildacat's I.D.;

Sambar(winter coat) Barasingha(stag, summer coat) Sambar(winter coat), Nilgai.

Sambar are darker brown than Barasingha, only Barasingha has orangey summer pelage.
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Yes, not very clear on my part. Both zoos have both together (I'm not sure whcih I thought this was at! :p ).
 
Javan Rhino
Never noticed the nilgai in that pic :p

Thanks for clearing that up, I'm happy to go with that. Had a feeling the orange one was barasingha as [in my mind] I see them as bright orange deer [like banteng are bright orange cattle in my mind, although males are black].

Wasn't sure on the females though :)
 
Maguari
Pertinax said:
Can be more confusing in winter when Barasingha are darker brown, similar to Sambar! But very few parks have both...
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Assuming Zootierliste is correct, every UK collection that has Sambar also has Barasingha in fact (though not vice versa).
 
K
If there is ever a surplus of sambar in zoo's in the UK,are they avaliable to be acquired by private collectors?

Cheers Khakibob
 
Tim May
Maguari said:
the Blackbuck is the sole species in genus Antilope.
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Although according to “Ungulate Taxonomy” (Groves & Grubb; 2011) it is possible that the two sub-species of blackbuck are actually distinct species......

jbnbsn99 said:
There's nothing like spending the last week reading "Ungulate Taxonomy" for pleasure reading....
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Agreed; it is currently my favourite book.
 
Tim May
Maguari said:
Racking my brain to remember who it was but I certainly remember there being at least one person who called Africans 'Loxodonts' because 'they weren't real elephants'.
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Shorts said:
Was it Ivan T. Sanderson?
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Indeed it was. Ivan T. Sanderson refers to African elephants as “Loxodonts” in his book

"The Dynasty of Abu: A History and Natural History of the Elephants and Their Relatives, Past and Present"
 

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