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Barasingha or Sambar

Can anybody better at ID'ing deer species help me out with this one - I watched more Lion King than Bambi when I was young, which is my way of saying I know far more antelope than deer :p
which is like saying that the only "real" elephant is the Asian elephant because that is the only one in the genus Elephas.

Racking my brain to remember who it was but I certainly remember there being at least one person who called Africans 'Loxodonts' because 'they weren't real elephants'.

Yes, I suppose we've differently-interpreted khakibob's 'basic point' there! You are correct in all you say.
 
Racking my brain to remember who it was but I certainly remember there being at least one person who called Africans 'Loxodonts' because 'they weren't real elephants'.
that is indeed amusing (at least to me :D). Taking that further, I suppose that would mean that there is only one real hippopotamus, with the other one having to be called a "choeropsis", and it would really mess up people talking about rhinos!!

:D
 
that is indeed amusing (at least to me :D). Taking that further, I suppose that would mean that there is only one real hippopotamus, with the other one having to be called a "choeropsis", and it would really mess up people talking about rhinos!!

:D

Really wish I could remember who it was. They were rather a well-regarded Elephantidae person as I recall, just with this little quirk!
 
Really wish I could remember who it was. They were rather a well-regarded Elephantidae person as I recall, just with this little quirk!
I've been googling a bit trying to find who it was, but I have run into that annoying internet effect where when something is said by "a scientist" or something like that, then it gets spread all over the place as fact which makes things awkward.
 
Have to say my first though was Barasingha - the stag definitely is.

West Mids do have Sambar in this paddock as well - they are also kept at Port Lympne.


Overview of deer in European zoos: ZootierlisteHomepage


Thanks for that,I'm glad to see you have them there.

Now for the "Zoo Klux Klan",apart from blackbuck what other aniimal are in the genus antelope? lol

Cheers Khakibob
 
Thanks for that,I'm glad to see you have them there.

No problem. :)

Now for the "Zoo Klux Klan",apart from blackbuck what other aniimal are in the genus antelope? lol

Cheers Khakibob

Nothing is in the genus 'antelope' - the Blackbuck is the sole species in genus Antilope. ( ;) ) The English word 'antelope' is from the same root but does not necessarily refer to the same group of species - as in Chli's rhino example - only two species are in genus Rhinoceros but there are five* species of rhinoceros.

But, defining the precise meaning of 'antelope' is difficult because it's a bit of a 'catch-all' term.



*or more, potentially, but the point's the same!
 
In the strictest definition and antelope is Antilope, but one branch above that genus is the subfamily Antilopinae which contains all the gazelles, saiga, gerenuk, dik-diks, etc. Above the Antilopinae is the Aegodontia (also known, confusingly, as Antilopinae by some taxonomists) which has everything in Bovidae except the cattle, buffalo, spiral-horned "antelope," and Nilgai/Chowsingha.

(There's nothing like spending the last week reading "Ungulate Taxonomy" for pleasure reading.... I need a life.)
 
I went to Port Lynpne yesterday and I can tell you that there are three species of deer in that exhibit. And I can tell you the stag is Barasingha, the one to the far right is actually a lone Nilgai and the others are Sambar Deer.
 
I went to Port Lynpne yesterday and I can tell you that there are three species of deer in that exhibit. And I can tell you the stag is Barasingha, the one to the far right is actually a lone Nilgai and the others are Sambar Deer.

That sounds a good ID to me.
 

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