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Common Loon

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Ah, I think you mean "Great Northern Diver"? ;) Am I right Maguari?
 
Ah, I think you mean "Great Northern Diver"? ;) Am I right Maguari?

I thought we agreed to disagree! :D

Lovely shot of Gavia immer, either way! (much better than my poor attempt!)
 
This species does not nest in the UK, so we never hear the 'lunatic' calls, and it isn't common here either. It is larger than the other species, it visits us from the north and we do see it diving. Both names make sense in their own locations.

Alan
 
A difficulty with the term 'loon' is that it can be seen as offensive to people with mental illness.
 
A difficulty with the term 'loon' is that it can be seen as offensive to people with mental illness.
but "diver" can be offensive to people who can't swim! Oh the curse of the Politically Correct world we live in :D
 
This species does not nest in the UK, so we never hear the 'lunatic' calls, and it isn't common here either. It is larger than the other species, it visits us from the north and we do see it diving. Both names make sense in their own locations.

Alan

Don't you get the Yellow-billed Loon, aka White-billed Diver? They're larger.
 
Chlidonias; we don't use the term 'n*****' any more either. I'm not an advocate of political correctness, and Loon, with it's 'lunatic' connotations, may be acceptable in North America, but not on this side of the Atlantic.
 
Well personally I think that's overly politically correct.

1) We are not calling people loons, we are calling birds loons.
2) The word loon and lunatic are from completely different etymologies. They are different words. The word Loon, "likely comes from either the Old English word lumme, meaning lummox or awkward person, or the Scandinavian word lum meaning lame or clumsy" referring to the birds inability to appear the least bit graceful on land. Lunatic however, is from the same root word as lunar, referring to the phases of the moon and the belief that this had an effect on people's mental health.
 
Apologies all round for my ignorance & general twitchiness. I didn't know it came from a different root to 'lunatic'. Sorry if people thought I was being overly PC, but I worked in mental health services for many years.
 

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