Australasian Tapir Population

steveroberts said:
@Jambo @Zoofan15 Cheers guys. But its the work of the two staff at ZoosSA really and just have copy pasted what they shares.

Yeah with Toby. If like you said @Jambo, it turns out in fact, he was Jacintha and gender was redetermined. Also perhaps if he was born in Feb '78, but perhaps his birth was not announced until April '78 (or was retedermined he was a male then and renamed?) explains with Taronga's record, one of the really helpful ladies who works there with stating in email reply about him: ''...I am not sure of his parents but he was born sometime between 1/4/78 and 30/4/1978...'' makes sense, and ties in with the book from Adelaide Zoo @WhistlingKite24 discovered and shared about how the Melbourne female and San Diego male we now know were named Lisa & Juan had a baby in April 1978, may have been a report record from then readressing the tapir calf born 13th Feb, believed to be a female calf and first named Jacintha?

Agree with your suggestion @Zoofan15 as it seems Toby wasn't born at Adelaide Zoo, and he came there from Melbourne Zoo? or a zoo in the UK (CITES mentioned 1 Brazilian tapir was imported into Australia from Great Britain in 1979).

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Toby came from Adelaide to Taronga Western Plains Zoo (Dubbo) 1985 and then Dubbo to Taronga 29/10/1988 and then returned to Dubbo 1995. I am not sure of his parents but he was born sometime between 1/4/78 and 30/4/1978

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When had read he came from Adelaide, hadn't personally considered that sure he came from there but not born there (like how Taronga Sydney would say Toby came from Dubbo is they weren't jointly managed zoos, and might assume he was born there too).

Wasn't expecting to see this on CITES records when having a look: 2 Tapirus indicus (Malayan tapirs) from the Netherlands to Australia in 1981! Unless do they record cancelled plans sometimes too? or tiny chance it's a mistake for Tapirus terrestris? If not, wow.
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Thanks Steve, and that does make a whole lot of sense if Toby was imported from the UK in 1979, possibly to replace 'Juan' who had passed or been transferred out that same year. As @Zoofan15 has mentioned, the timeline also aligns with him transferring out to Dubbo in 1985, and Raymond being transferred across at the same time. Whether Toby wasn't inclined to breed, or couldn't for that matter; that would also explain why he was essentially kept in a bachelor grouping at Taronga for a period.

That's also very interesting to hear of two Malayan Tapirs being imported into Australia in 1981. CITES doesn't record plans - so if it was two Malayans the only explanation is that they arrived to a facility, and passed soon after. More likely however, is it was a mistake, and they were two Brazilians. Pearl Coast had two Brazilians as of the early 90's... could be a connection there. Melbourne and Dubbo were also importing a large amount of ungulates from Europe in the early 80's.
 
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