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But can you argue that for PR purposes, the confusion created by giving two giraffes the exact same name would be a fail? Or at least very, very lazy?
Not at all. Firstly it is unlikely that any member of the general public will ever realize. Most publicity is local, and few people visit interstate zoos. It would be exceptional if they remember the names of individual animals anyway.

Secondly let's say that both Taronga and Perth had a Gerry the Giraffe. Somehow Taronga manages to make Gerry a national hero. Most visitors to Perth Zoo will be thrilled to see Gerry the Giraffe and won't even realize it is not the same animal.

As for being lazy, if a name works well in one zoo, of course it would be copied by other zoos. Why reinvent the wheel?

Lastly do you really think people are sitting in offices in zoos around Australia worrying what other zoos are calling their animals?
 
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@MRJ I completely disagree. I think all zoo management with a shred of good business sense wants to engage their local community (be it a huge city like Sydney or a small town like Halls Gap) to spread a conservation message and foster their support.

Naming animals is a really effective way to do this. If it wasn't they wouldn't do it. So to answer your questions:

Not at all. Firstly it is unlikely that any member of the general public will ever realize. Most publicity is local, and few people visit interstate zoos. It would be exceptional if they remember the names of individual animals anyway.

Disagree. My mum can name pretty much every elephant at Melbourne Zoo, even though she only visits every few years. On that, I recall many, many years ago I was at a trivia night and one question was "What is the name of the two elephants at Melbourne Zoo?". Mine was not the only table that got the answer right. You only need to loiter around a zoo volunteer at any of the major zoos to hear the occasional regular questioning "But what happened to the other silverback?"

Secondly let's say that both Taronga and Perth had a Gerry the Giraffe. Somehow Taronga manages to make Gerry a national hero. Most visitors to Perth Zoo will be thrilled to see Gerry the Giraffe and won't even realize it is not the same animal.

I don't even believe that you believe that ! Are you really suggesting Taronga would have gotten away with naming a gorilla "Mzuri"?

As for being lazy, if a name works well in one zoo, of course it would be copied by other zoos. Why reinvent the wheel?

Because we are not inventing the wheel. Just choosing names.

Lastly do you really think people are sitting in offices in zoos around Australia worrying what other zoos are calling their animals?

Well obviously not. Which is rather ridiculous to me. As it shows how little respect there is for the public's interest. Which is one of my biggest criticism's of zoos. To me, I would think fostering peoples interest in the zoos day to day activities is only a good thing.

Personally, I'm forever unimpressed how appallingly little information is given about the animals through signage. Both at a species level (another whole topic of conversation) but also at an individual level - where I think the scope of interest would be even greater. Since reading a sign is optional, one would assume zoos would provide as much information in this format as people might choose to read. but instead all visitors are all treated as if we have the attention span of five-year olds.

I think zoos would be wise to volunteer as much information as the public will absorb regarding their individual animal's management and husbandry and promote the co-operation they have with other zoos at managing these animals. People love that stuff. If you hear a zoo volunteer chatting to a patron about.... anything, lets say a binturong, I can guarantee you that every single ear in the vicinity is pricked up and hanging off every word that volunteer says, even if they are too embarrassed to be the one asking the questions.

People love. that. stuff.

As much as I wish to hear more people asking keepers/volunteers about a species decline or deforestation, the number one visitor question has gotta be: "Are you getting him/her a boyfriend/girlfriend?"

Because people love it. And whilst yes, a name is just a name, I guess my argument is that the kind of thinking that leads to a zoo shrugging off naming their pygmy hippo the exact same name as another zoo, is the same thinking that underestimates the value in this stuff. Its the way in.

If I owned a zoo I'd have a sign advertising the name (and birthplace etc) and of almost everything but the meerkats. And that just because I wouldn't have any! ;)
 
@MRJ I completely disagree. I think all zoo management with a shred of good business sense wants to engage their local community (be it a huge city like Sydney or a small town like Halls Gap) to spread a conservation message and foster their support.

Naming animals is a really effective way to do this. If it wasn't they wouldn't do it. So to answer your questions:



Disagree. My mum can name pretty much every elephant at Melbourne Zoo, even though she only visits every few years. On that, I recall many, many years ago I was at a trivia night and one question was "What is the name of the two elephants at Melbourne Zoo?". Mine was not the only table that got the answer right. You only need to loiter around a zoo volunteer at any of the major zoos to hear the occasional regular questioning "But what happened to the other silverback?"



I don't even believe that you believe that ! Are you really suggesting Taronga would have gotten away with naming a gorilla "Mzuri"?



Because we are not inventing the wheel. Just choosing names.



Well obviously not. Which is rather ridiculous to me. As it shows how little respect there is for the public's interest. Which is one of my biggest criticism's of zoos. To me, I would think fostering peoples interest in the zoos day to day activities is only a good thing.

Personally, I'm forever unimpressed how appallingly little information is given about the animals through signage. Both at a species level (another whole topic of conversation) but also at an individual level - where I think the scope of interest would be even greater. Since reading a sign is optional, one would assume zoos would provide as much information in this format as people might choose to read. but instead all visitors are all treated as if we have the attention span of five-year olds.

I think zoos would be wise to volunteer as much information as the public will absorb regarding their individual animal's management and husbandry and promote the co-operation they have with other zoos at managing these animals. People love that stuff. If you hear a zoo volunteer chatting to a patron about.... anything, lets say a binturong, I can guarantee you that every single ear in the vicinity is pricked up and hanging off every word that volunteer says, even if they are too embarrassed to be the one asking the questions.

People love. that. stuff.

As much as I wish to hear more people asking keepers/volunteers about a species decline or deforestation, the number one visitor question has gotta be: "Are you getting him/her a boyfriend/girlfriend?"

Because people love it. And whilst yes, a name is just a name, I guess my argument is that the kind of thinking that leads to a zoo shrugging off naming their pygmy hippo the exact same name as another zoo, is the same thinking that underestimates the value in this stuff. Its the way in.

If I owned a zoo I'd have a sign advertising the name (and birthplace etc) and of almost everything but the meerkats. And that just because I wouldn't have any! ;)
Remember I have never argued that animals should not be named - if only for the reason that people do have a fascination with their names and it is good for marketing. What I do argue is that naming them is a trivial matter and it is of no importance what their name is, other than for it's marketing utility.

Yes I understand there are star animals and people form connections (which are entirely one way despite what some people believe) with some of them or some species in general. Your mother may know the name of every elephant but does she know the names of the otters or the tree kangaroos? But that is the point, it is for people like your mother that animals are named, it has nothing to do with the operation of the zoo as such. (In the case of elephants, there will of course be a training name which your mother, or any other member of the public, will never be told).

When I gave the fictional account of George the Giraffe, I was of course implying that the zoos both had animals with the same name and one became famous later, not that one zoo was attempting to pass off their animal as the famous one by naming it.

Mzuri, though is a great example of a name that was a product of a naming competition and was only ever used in marketing. It was never the name used within the zoo, and it was never used by any of the subsequent holders of the gorilla.

Taronga did get away with naming a whole line of gorillas "King Kong", though. As a child I was enthralled by Taronga's King Kong not knowing the gorillas were replaced on a regular basis due to the appalling conditions they were held in at that time. The marketing worked though, as I insisted my family visit Taronga to see King Kong during a family holiday in Sydney. (It was very disappointing when I got there though, as it was very difficult to see the gorillas in their dark, heavily barred cage).

Yes people love hearing about the animals. Which is why we have (at least pre-COVID) frequent talks and shows, and make sure our keepers are never too busy to talk to visitors. But what does it matter what the animal is called? I've made names up on the spot. It's easier that saying no, we have 20 nearly identical wallabies and we don't name them individually, just know them by their microchip number. But them I try and go on and tell them something about the animals.

By the way if you ever own a zoo of course you will have meerkats, if only because:

1. They are very popular with the public.
2. They are cheap and easy to keep.
3. They add some diversity to your collection.

Otherwise you will end up a very broke zoo owner.
 
Remember I have never argued that animals should not be named - if only for the reason that people do have a fascination with their names and it is good for marketing. What I do argue is that naming them is a trivial matter and it is of no importance what their name is, other than for it's marketing utility.

Yes, I understand you are talking from a marketing perspective. I just don't think creating unnecessary confusion makes for good marketing.
 
The male giraffe calf is now on-display with the other two females at Adelaide:

"Our little hand raised giraffe calf is growing bigger and stronger thanks to his ongoing care from keepers. But we need your help now to give him a name! At six weeks old he is 2.2m (already taller than his keepers) and weighing in at 110.5kg. His daily care includes four feeds starting at 7am and going through to 6.30pm. We are very excited to announce he has now made his public debut at Adelaide Zoo alongside 1 year old Nolean and the towering 16 year old Kimya."

The zoo is also running a naming competition for the calf with the following options. I hope they don't go with Kamili as there is a female at Orana with that exact name:

"Azizi – Swahili name that means Beloved, Precious One, Treasure and Valuable, pronounced as A-zee-zee

Kamili – Swahili meaning perfect, pronounced as Ka-mi-lee

Nguvu – Swahili for ‘strong’, pronounced as Ngu-vuu

Dlelana – Zulu for ‘to be friendly with one another’, pronounced Dleur-lana"
The giraffe calf has been named Azizi:

“After more than 3,000 votes, we're excited to announce the winning name of our seven-week-old giraffe calf, Azizi. The Swahili name that means beloved, precious one, treasure and valuable is very fitting for this little one.”
 
The giraffe calf has been named Azizi:

“After more than 3,000 votes, we're excited to announce the winning name of our seven-week-old giraffe calf, Azizi. The Swahili name that means beloved, precious one, treasure and valuable is very fitting for this little one.”

Have to say, I love when zoos use names from the human cultures in the regions / countries where the species occur in the wild.
 
Have to say, I love when zoos use names from the human cultures in the regions / countries where the species occur in the wild.

I’m a huge fan of it; and with the exception of Australia Zoo, the zoos of Australasia excel at choosing geographically appropriate names.

It’s been commonplace in the region since at least the 80’s - Auckland Zoo named their Jaguar and African lions South American and African names respectively; and named their Ring-tailed lemurs after cities in Madagascar etc.

Taronga Zoo initially gave their chimpanzees people names; but since the mid 80’s have named their infants African names.

I’d actually assumed this was done all around the world and was surprised how many North American facilities still give their animals people names.
 
I’m a huge fan of it; and with the exception of Australia Zoo, the zoos of Australasia excel at choosing geographically appropriate names.

It’s been commonplace in the region since at least the 80’s - Auckland Zoo named their Jaguar and African lions South American and African names respectively; and named their Ring-tailed lemurs after cities in Madagascar etc.

Taronga Zoo initially gave their chimpanzees people names; but since the mid 80’s have named their infants African names.

I’d actually assumed this was done all around the world and was surprised how many North American facilities still give their animals people names.

I love this kind of thing too and its great that Australian zoos do this.

Chapultepec is pretty good at this too.

Sorocaba zoo really wasn't good at this at all, there were so many male animals called "Johnny" or "Bill" or females called "Mel" or "Princess" etc. that it was a bit ridiculous.

I'm not going to take credit for this because I didn't institute these changes but I remember talking with the educational apartment about giving the native animals indigenous Tupi-Guarani names.

Now there are contests held to name baby muriquis or owls or jaguars with these so that is an awesome development.
 
I love this kind of thing too and its great that Australian zoos do this.

Chapultepec is pretty good at this too.

Sorocaba zoo really wasn't good at this at all, there were so many male animals called "Johnny" or "Bill" or females called "Mel" or "Princess" etc. that it was a bit ridiculous.

I'm not going to take credit for this because I didn't institute these changes but I remember talking with the educational apartment about giving the native animals indigenous Tupi-Guarani names and now there are contests held to name baby muriquis or owls or jaguars with these so thats awesome.

I am also a massive fan of names reflecting the animals geographical heritage.

It’s just ridiculous when animals are given the names like ‘Princess’ or ‘Rocket’; names that you would give to your pet dog. Sometimes the names are just beyond ridiculous; like Xbox, a Tasmanian Devil at Monarto Safari Park. Like, where’s the thought in that? :rolleyes:
 
I am also a massive fan of names reflecting the animals geographical heritage.

It’s just ridiculous when animals are given the names like ‘Princess’ or ‘Rocket’; names that you would give to your pet dog. Sometimes the names are just beyond ridiculous; like Xbox, a Tasmanian Devil at Monarto Safari Park. Like, where’s the thought in that? :rolleyes:

Yes, definitely, I prefer a bit more creativity and thought going into the naming too.
 
I love this kind of thing too and its great that Australian zoos do this.

Chapultepec is pretty good at this too.

Sorocaba zoo really wasn't good at this at all, there were so many male animals called "Johnny" or "Bill" or females called "Mel" or "Princess" etc. that it was a bit ridiculous.

I'm not going to take credit for this because I didn't institute these changes but I remember talking with the educational apartment about giving the native animals indigenous Tupi-Guarani names.

Now there are contests held to name baby muriquis or owls or jaguars with these so that is an awesome development.
That sounds great about the Tupi-Guarani, the keepers of the forests (despite all the dam building and deforestation), naming contests with local Amazonian wildlife.
 
A Quokka joey has been born at Adelaide Zoo. The zoo now has 11 Quokkas in total:
Visitors to Adelaide Zoo will have one more animal to see over the school holidays as a little Quokka joey has been spotted sticking his head out from mum Poppy's pouch.
"It's around five months old that joeys can be regularly seen poking their heads out from a mum's pouch," said Michelle Birkett, Senior Keeper Presenter Nature Theatre, AZ Presentations and Kids Zoo. "We use foot measurements to determine age and sure enough we believe this little one is give or take five months old."
"As you can see, he has started to investigate other foods as well as milk. The older he gets the more adventurous he'll get both with taste but also with exploring. At around six months old he'll take his next big bounce by having exploratory hops around the exhibit before jumping back on board with mum," finished Michelle.
Adelaide Zoo is home to eleven Quokkas including nine-year-old mum Poppy, Dad Pealoo and the little joey. Supporting the Quokka breeding program, Adelaide Zoo plays an important role in the species' survival.
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I’d actually assumed this was done all around the world and was surprised how many North American facilities still give their animals people names.

Quite a lot of gorillas in North America still have people names. One of the most unusual I've come across is 'Paul Donn'- though no idea why he was named like that. Far less gorillas in Europe have people-derived names.
 
A few native animal move arounds that aim to apparently align with the Zoos SA masterplan - their Emu and one of their Western Grey Kangaroos are moving to another collection. The two other grey kangaroos have been integrated into the neighbouring macropod yard. Adelaide Zoo's group of Tammar Wallabies have also been moved off-display but will remain at the zoo. The new dingoes will be going on show in this area:
Today we're saying ‘au revoir’ to Cecil and Leroy, two of Adelaide Zoo's much-loved animals who are heading to a beautiful private sanctuary in the Fleurieu Peninsula. As we prepare their former enclosure to house the dingo puppies, Cecil the Emu and Leroy the Western Grey Kangaroo are packing up their belongings (well, their keepers are) for their next chapter. Cecil and Leroy’s move, although earlier than we had originally planned, aligns with our Zoo Master Plan. Kangaroos Scarlett and Winnie, who also shared the exhibit have been integrated into the adjacent kangaroo and wallaby yard and the Tammar Wallabies have moved behind the scenes (but will remain onsite as part of a breeding programme). Knowing that many of our staff, volunteers, members and visitors enjoy seeing Cecil and Leroy in the natives exhibit, we have made this special tribute video of the pair and encourage you to leave messages and any photos in the comments below.
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Adelaide Zoo's alpha male Hamadryas Baboon, Horus has been euthanised due to a combination of injuries and age-related illnesses. This still leaves the troop in a rather unstable position with only one female and her two sons:
Everyone, we’re sad to let you know of the passing of Horus, Adelaide Zoo’s oldest male Hamadryas Baboon. Mate to 18-year-old female Chappi and father to six-year-old Tomkay and four-year-old Djibouti, Horus was a protector figure in the baboon troop and we know many of you will remember his commanding presence and impressive silver cape of hair. At 22 years of age, Horus was in his twilight years and was experiencing a number of age-related health challenges. During a routine health check performed to assess Horus’s condition after an altercation within the troop, the vet team determined that his injuries, combined with the other age-related challenges, were not compatible with a suitable quality of life and the sad but necessary decision was made to euthanise him. While the dynamics of the baboon troop at the zoo had certainly been changing with both Horus and his sons reaching an older age, the zoo keeping team reviewed CCTV footage and concluded that Horus’ injuries were not caused by overt aggression but rather by an accident during a normal scuffle; a routine way of settling disputes in the baboon world. This knowledge, of course, doesn’t make the situation any easier for the primate team here at Adelaide Zoo and our thoughts are with the dedicated keepers that have diligently cared for Horus since his arrival in 2010. He will be remembered as a shy and gentle baboon who brilliantly ruled the troop with a calm hand. Our keepers are now focusing on the welfare of Chappi, Tomkay and Djibouti, and the pathway in front of their exhibit may be closed over the next few days as they transition to this change. Rest in peace, Horus. We know you will be missed.
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Lots of mammal moves for Adelaide Zoo. The hyenas have moved back to Monarto Safari Park permanently. Their enclosure will be occupied by the zoo's pygmy hippo. The former hippo enclosure will accommodate the zoo's two capybaras. An unnamed new species will be moving into the former capybara enclosure:
On the move....
We wanted to let you know that three-year-old Spotted Hyenas Jaali and Majani have moved back to sister site Monarto Safari Park. The hyenas' stay at Adelaide Zoo was always temporary but we know, despite their brief stint, the duo will be missed. What’s happening in this space? In a few weeks’ time, after a few necessary modifications, we will move Obi the perfectly petite and portly Pygmy Hippopotamus into the exhibit. We believe that in terms of animal welfare this is a great move for Obi as this new environment offers a larger roaming space, water and a more secluded setting. We are sure you will look forward to seeing Obi in his new space, which has plenty of great viewing opportunities. Over the next month, Capybaras Dalia and Sofia will be moving into Obi’s exhibit and another species (yet to be named) will move into the Capybaras' former space. Jaali and Majani will initially spend time settling in at an off limits area but eventually they will rotate with the clan at Monarto's main exhibit. Thanks for your patience as we make these moves and we hope to see you soon!
 
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