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Reptile Lover

Reptile Lover

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I went to Adelaide Zoo on Wednesday and found that many exhibits with a green sign out the front of them saying something how it is being done for the pandas. I saw it on all macaw aviaries, lyrebird aviary, patagonian cavy, zebra, brazilian tapir and axis deer. Does anyone know what they are doing with the exhibits and if it is for the pandas how lkarge will the exhibit be. Thanks.
 
What is this zoo like?
I'm going in August next year. Will the Pandas be there then?
 
I am disappointed that these enclosures will be demolished. Do you know where they will put all these animals? Also the pandas are arriving in October next year so they won't be there when you visit.
 
Dammit :(
Ah well, saw one in Berlin so it's not so bad.
Thanks
 
Reptile Lover said:
I am disappointed that these enclosures will be demolished. Do you know where they will put all these animals? Also the pandas are arriving in October next year so they won't be there when you visit.
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The penguins will move to the childrens zoo, and then to the new entrance. I assume the rest of the animals will move to monarto
 
Hopefully those animals do but I wonder if the macaws and other birds will. I saw a couple of wonga pigeons in the rainforest aviary so they may be added to other exhibits. Thanks.
 
I have just found out that Adelaide sent its male and three female patagonian cavys to dubbo and has still got two females.
 
In the region, if ISIS is to be believed, there are 2 females at Adelaide; a solitary female at Auckland and 1 male and 5 females at Dubbo. Those in Australia are extremely inbred and are not regarded as viable.
The species could be saved in Australia by importing new blood, but there seems to be a lack of will to do it. (It wouldn't cost too much.)

This is the sort of thing that bugs me about Australian zoos. Some bean-counter with too much influence has probably worked out that the loss of Patagonian maras won't make any difference to visitor numbers, so why bother with them?
 
Ara said:
The species could be saved in Australia by importing new blood, but there seems to be a lack of will to do it. (It wouldn't cost too much.)

This is the sort of thing that bugs me about Australian zoos. Some bean-counter with too much influence has probably worked out that the loss of Patagonian maras won't make any difference to visitor numbers, so why bother with them?
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Ara, you really should try to find out why some things occur (or don't occur). before you run down zoo management for their actions. It is only in the last 2-3 weeks, that Biosecurity Australia has allowed the import of a very small number of rodent species into Australia again. So recently in fact, that the draft policy http://www.daff.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0020/600464/2008_10.pdf hasn't yet been replaced on the BA web site with the final policy

"Bean-counters" in zoos, as you put it, have absolutely nothing to do with the lack of importation of cavys. It simply has not been allowed.
 
Interesting post, ZooPro.
hopefully in the not to distant future we might see a healthy population of these species in our zoos again.
 
Apologies, ZooPro; it seems that I have gone off half-cocked again! :o

I can't see why the government makes it so difficult for bona fide zoos to import animals. Can't they understand that large reputable ARAZPA affiliated zoos are going to be a whole lot more responsible (and accountable) for the security of their exotics than, say, a hobby tropical fish owner who gets tired of cleaning the tank and releases his fish in the nearest creek?
 
Ara said:
I can't see why the government makes it so difficult for bona fide zoos to import animals. Can't they understand that large reputable ARAZPA affiliated zoos are going to be a whole lot more responsible (and accountable) for the security of their exotics than, say, a hobby tropical fish owner who gets tired of cleaning the tank and releases his fish in the nearest creek?
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Unfortunately Ara, no they can't - or won't.

And we're not talking "government" but "governments". Even though the Feds may relax their protocols a little there is no guarantee that the States will do likewise.

Here in Queensland [the Smart State!] we are denied keeping scores of species that are kept in zoos in other States.

Our government refuses to acknowledge that not one species of vertebrate pest in this country became so following the release or escape of that species from a zoo.
 
Steve Robinson said:
Unfortunately Ara, no they can't - or won't.

And we're not talking "government" but "governments". Even though the Feds may relax their protocols a little there is no guarantee that the States will do likewise.

Here in Queensland [the Smart State!] we are denied keeping scores of species that are kept in zoos in other States.

Our government refuses to acknowledge that not one species of vertebrate pest in this country became so following the release or escape of that species from a zoo.
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Steve,

That says it all basically (how we Europeans feel about biosecurity). I am all for good quarantaine, vaccination and blood testing for zoonosis in exotics. And prescribed transport crates, modes, veterinary supervision and sufficient food/watering of exotics.

Just when you look at the state of cattle transport and health, you become more than mildly disturbed. Everything is allowed basically: no vet, no prescribed transport crates/modes, no sufficient watering/feeding and certainly no health checks or proper quarantaines. The other week or so cattle ranchers in The Netherlands imported young cows and heifers infected with bovine TB from the UK (where for the hell of it it is endemic in cattle - they have considered to gass badgers instead to combat it ... mind boggling and with no documented scientific basis at all).

Again, no zoo has ever been responsible here for dumping a zoonosis on this country and infecting major cattle herds nor other exotics at other zoos. This all thanx to measures as in paragraph one. Same same in Oz (allthough a portion of my Aussie forumsters still wish to disagree ... well ok it is a free world ... but, but and buts ... :eek: :rolleyes:
 
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