American Ornithological Society to Re-Name Birds

Read the thread. Being concerned about species names doesn't mean people stop caring about conservation, we can care about more than one thing at a time. Better names absolutely WILL bring in new birders, and will make others feel safer. The other half deserves to be alienated if they're going to quit caring about wildlife because they have different names.

Honestly I would love it if when these changes come down the line someone could make 2 graphs representing either the rise or fall in birders before and after the name change. Would be really interesting to gauge if the names would actually bring in more birders, lose more birders, or does not really make a dent in anything.

Also would just like to note that the Tracy Aviary is supportive of these new changes.

Tracy Aviary - On November 1, the American Ornithological...
 
And instead of changing names, why not just give each bird a second name? That way those pushing for the changes get different names to call birds and older birders don't have to learn new names. I mean, if the cougar aka puma aka mountain lion aka deer tiger aka catamount etc can have multiple names ( granted that's due to their range overlapping with several different cultures, but I digress), then I don't see why they can't simply give the birds second names.

Then again, that involves compromise, a concept Americans nowadays seem unable to comprehend or don't want to accept.
I think this is a very valid point. Birds are the only taxonomic group in which common names are mostly universal, many other taxa have multiple common names and no organization deciding what the common names will be. Why is it so important that everyone calls these birds the same thing, when common names in other taxa are so much more variable?

If I tried to quickly think of animals with multiple common names, it's only a small handful of birds I'd be able to come up with: Hawaiian goose/nene, Bernier's/Madagascar teal, upland/Magellan goose, African/black-footed penguin, Bahama/white-cheeked pintail, crested/southern screamer, cinereous/Eurasian black vulture, and northern/Abyssinian ground hornbill all come to mind.

To contrast that with mammals, while I'm not going to list them all, I could easily think of at least thirty species with multiple common names. Now, there's a chance this is simply that I know more about mammals than birds overall (however I'm really only knowledgeable about a small percentage of mammals), but I do wonder why bird names need to be so uniform, we have binomial names in the scientific literature for a reason.
I think you are misrepresenting what Linneaus did. Yes he classified humans in a racist way (at least he classified them as animals), but saying he developed his taxonomy (all his work, or just his work on humans?) to prove biological differences between human races goes very far. When reading on this topic it seems that the American left has taken a quite extreme position in this (and politicised it), but you can't name Linneaus as the founder of scientific racism to quote a Swedish scientist:

http://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1725818/FULLTEXT02.pdf

I suggest you step out of your bubble and read a bit more on the topic with an open mind. I personally don't think it was his specific purpose, but rather a (flawed) consequence of his aim to classify life on planet earth. Do I agree with him, certainly not, is he free of blame, certainly not. But it would be good take a more nuanced view.
Don't get me wrong, scientific racism certainly existed both well before and well after Linneaus. However, scientific racism was such an integral part of the taxonomic system he developed, and while it may not be his only purpose, certainly played a major role in the development of the taxonomic system, at least as it applied to hominids. I don't think it's possible though to talk about Linneaus without acknowledging the problematic nature of some of his work, but he's far from the only natural scientist to be problematic. I'm studying animal behavior, where one of the most influential pioneers in the field was also a Nazi (Konrad Lorenz), so I certainly think it is possible to acknowledge the impact a person's research had on the development of science while simultaneously acknowledging the harm that same person did, or the problematic motivations or methods used.
 
IMO the practice of naming animals after people is... kind of dumb. Rant incoming.

For starters, naming animals after people is not how we remember naturalists or acknowledge their scientific contributions. Books are; research texts and citations are; documentaries are; museum exhibits, artifacts, journals and sketches are - in other words, recorded history and science is how we remember naturalists. Eponyms are how we memorialize historical figures - hence discussions about whether Audubon or Jameson deserved to have birds named after them or not. By the same token, people like Humboldt would not be "eliminated from public conscience" by renaming Humboldt penguins; you can argue whether or not he was a good enough person to celebrate - but naming a penguin after him is celebrating him, not recording him in the annals of history. Nobody is eliminated from the public conscience because thousands of people don't say their name aloud daily with no context.

It would also be one thing if birds were always named after people for a clear reason, but this is often not the case. Anna's Hummingbird - a New World bird native to California and Mexico - is named after the wife of a 19th century ornithologist, and not even the one who described the bird. Thousands of people every day mention a bird by the name of a person who had nothing to do with it. And even claiming that we should name animals after what European first discovered or described them doesn't really make sense: it would be like if I (an American) traveled to New Guinea and stayed with a local tribe, drew a sketch of a bird they see every day, took it back to the States and a few years later the whole world calls it the "Coelacanth Bird" because I posted a photo of my sketch online.

Species named after people also fail to utilize the common name as something to describe the animal. One can guess at a Gray Jay, because it looks like a gray jay. What does "Anna's Hummingbird" tell you about the bird itself? It describes nothing of its dazzling appearance, its amazing adaptations, its fascinating behaviors, not even what coast it can be found on (the best one... :p). A species with unique attributes that could lend it a name is instead named after a member of the 1800's French royal court...

TL;DR - even setting aside arguments about whether renaming birds is inclusive or not, naming birds after people was always dumb and I have no problem moving on to a new system - so long as it is done carefully, comprehensively, and democratically.

In ornithology right now, binomials are maintained only as a formality. The standardized English common names have essentially replaced the scientific names, largely because of the high number of amateurs interested in birds.
Birds are the only taxonomic group in which common names are mostly universal
In birds, common names are generally more important than scientific names. Changing them would honestly cause less disruption.

This whole "bird common names are as or more universal than Latin names" line that some of you keep stating is (at best) way overstated. For one thing, people who speak languages other than English use different names. For another, lots of birds have multiple common names in English - sometimes based on location/country, sometimes within a single location. The fact that eBird, iNaturalist or field guides have standardized names does not mean other names don't exist or aren't used. Latin names are the "universal names" for birds just as they are for all other animals.

This whole situation is also deeply unpopular with birders themselves, as evidenced here: https://osf.io/tnzya/.

People who write angry comments on Washington Post articles are not representative of the entire population :p

And instead of changing names, why not just give each bird a second name? That way those pushing for the changes get different names to call birds and older birders don't have to learn new names.

In practice that is essentially what's going to happen: many people will use the new names, many people will use the old names, sometimes they will confuse or argue with each other about it, everybody will go home and have lunch. It's not going to be against the law to say "Anna's Hummingbird", and many people will continue calling it by that name (either intentionally or by habit) for decades at minimum.
 
For another, lots of birds have multiple common names in English - sometimes based on location/country, sometimes within a single location.

To cite one example, you mentioned the Gray Jay - a species I had to look up as I didn't recognise the name, as I'm more familiar with the names Canada Jay and Whiskey Jack :p
 
Species named after people also fail to utilize the common name as something to describe the animal. One can guess at a Gray Jay, because it looks like a gray jay. What does "Anna's Hummingbird" tell you about the bird itself? It describes nothing of its dazzling appearance, its amazing adaptations, its fascinating behaviors, not even what coast it can be found on (the best one... :p). A species with unique attributes that could lend it a name is instead named after a member of the 1800's French royal court...
To give a personal anecdote, in 2021 I visited Southwick's Zoo and there was an unsigned parrot of a species I wasn't familiar with. It was green with a blue head, so I typed into google "blue headed parrot" to see if I could figure out what it was. Turned out it was literally a blue-headed parrot! Descriptive names can be very useful when it comes to figuring out a species you see but are not familiar with, and are what I personally hope is used most frequently in animal names, along with geographic indicators when relevant.
 
To cite one example, you mentioned the Gray Jay - a species I had to look up as I didn't recognise the name, as I'm more familiar with the names Canada Jay and Whiskey Jack :p

Canada Jay is what is listed on Wikipedia and is the name eBird uses, so my guess would be that Canada is the most commonly used name (even though it is also found in the US). "Whiskey Jack" is an Anglicized version of a character in First Nations lore who is associated with the bird. Gray Jay is obviously just a visual description. It's an interesting case study, as this bird has at least four common names (also "Camp Robber" due to its behavior) and the most commonly used one is perhaps the least useful at actually contextualizing the bird :p
 
"Whiskey Jack" is an Anglicized version of a character in First Nations lore who is associated with the bird.

Yep, I'm familiar with the folk stories pertaining to Wìsakedjàk :)

and the most commonly used one is perhaps the least useful at actually contextualizing the bird :p

On top of the geographic point you made, it's also not close kin to true jays per se :p being - along with its congenerics - sister to the Azure-winged Magpies.
 
To give a personal anecdote, in 2021 I visited Southwick's Zoo and there was an unsigned parrot of a species I wasn't familiar with. It was green with a blue head, so I typed into google "blue headed parrot" to see if I could figure out what it was. Turned out it was literally a blue-headed parrot! Descriptive names can be very useful when it comes to figuring out a species you see but are not familiar with, and are what I personally hope is used most frequently in animal names, along with geographic indicators when relevant.
Descriptive names are all well and good until you have too many? Ever tried to sort through Neotropical antbirds? It's a nightmare because they're all "Black-whatevered Antbird". Zeledon's Antbird is memorable because it's an eponym.
 
Descriptive names are all well and good until you have too many? Ever tried to sort through Neotropical antbirds? It's a nightmare because they're all "Black-whatevered Antbird". Zeledon's Antbird is memorable because it's an eponym.
I agree that a big problem with descriptive names can be when they are too general and/or refer to too many species. The example I always use is the yellow-billed duck. There's a yellow-billed duck, yellow-billed pintail, yellow-billed teal, etc., and plenty of other yellow-billed ducks without yellow-billed in its name. Due to this, "yellow-billed duck" may not have been the best choice for a descriptive name, but instead perhaps combining a few features would make it more beneficial, for instance the "South African yellow-billed duck", or something of the like.

To go back to the Anna's hummingbird this thread seems to be obsessed with, a name such as "California Hummingbird" wouldn't make much sense, since there are a number of hummingbird species native to California. Instead, something such as "Pacific Pink-throated Hummingbird" may be the route to take, as it narrows down both the geographic range and a prominent defining characteristic. Personally, I wouldn't find the Zeledon's Antbird to be a very memorable name, and looking at this species it seems fairly obvious a better, more descriptive name would be the "Blue-eyed Antbird".
 
I agree that a big problem with descriptive names can be when they are too general and/or refer to too many species. The example I always use is the yellow-billed duck. There's a yellow-billed duck, yellow-billed pintail, yellow-billed teal, etc., and plenty of other yellow-billed ducks without yellow-billed in its name. Due to this, "yellow-billed duck" may not have been the best choice for a descriptive name, but instead perhaps combining a few features would make it more beneficial, for instance the "South African yellow-billed duck", or something of the like.

To go back to the Anna's hummingbird this thread seems to be obsessed with, a name such as "California Hummingbird" wouldn't make much sense, since there are a number of hummingbird species native to California. Instead, something such as "Pacific Pink-throated Hummingbird" may be the route to take, as it narrows down both the geographic range and a prominent defining characteristic. Personally, I wouldn't find the Zeledon's Antbird to be a very memorable name, and looking at this species it seems fairly obvious a better, more descriptive name would be the "Blue-eyed Antbird".
"Pacific Pink-throated Hummingbird" is unwieldly.

I understand that you don't think Zeledon's Antbird has a memorable name in a vacuum - but look into other antbirds and you'll understand very quickly.
 
The Georgia chapter of the Audubon Society is changing its name to "Birds Georgia". Personally, I hope other chapters follow suit.

Why Georgia Audubon is changing its name to Birds Georgia
Plenty of Audubon chapters around the country have changed their name. The National Audubon Society elected not to.

Some of the names they've picked are not better. There's a good chance that the newly rechristened "Badgerland Bird Alliance" is going to be in court soon over that name change.
 
Plenty of Audubon chapters around the country have changed their name. The National Audubon Society elected not to.

Some of the names they've picked are not better. There's a good chance that the newly rechristened "Badgerland Bird Alliance" is going to be in court soon over that name change.
Why is the name change going to court? Is it a copywright/trademark issue or what?
 
The Georgia chapter of the Audubon Society is changing its name to "Birds Georgia". Personally, I hope other chapters follow suit.

Out of the frying pan to the fire! Named after King George II, who did much more things disreputable for 21. century American sensitivities.

https://statesymbolsusa.org/symbol-official-item/georgia/state-name-origin/origin-georgia
George II of Great Britain - Wikipedia

Perhaps younger members need to know, that any famous man (and any man) had bad sides. And criticizing somebody great from the past does not make the critic similarly great to any extent.
 
Maybe sometimes. I'm not convinced something suitable can or will always be found.

Agreed. I've birded South America extensively and had outings where a variety of antbirds have been present; same habitat, same geographical area, similar habits, similar appearance, and maddening similar trills. You may have to really scrutinize the spectrograms. Evolution does not care about making species amenable to our descriptors. Another example are the Phylloscopus warblers in Asia, but at least when they sing, their songs are quite distinctive. I recall in India trying to make sense of Green Warbler vs. Greenish Warbler.
 
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