ZYBen
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So as we read between the lines.. They would rather see something die than have Private individuals 'keep' it.
Animals from Tipperary.
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So as we read between the lines.. They would rather see something die than have Private individuals 'keep' it.
Private zoos were the only ones who were prepared to give it a try. The big ones wanted everything delivered to them on a plate.
You're winding me up ZYBen! lol
We're going to need a whole new thread if you want to go there.
ZYBen
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Lets go there! Alert the masses of whats really going in in species managment! Take to the streets (might see a whole 2 cars on Baines Road
)Have you stopped taking your medication? lol
This is serious - probably too serious for a forum such as this. And I'm way too tired to even start down this track now. Let's see what the pros have to say about today's mess.
Go on, take the nice pills again!
This is serious - probably too serious for a forum such as this. And I'm way too tired to even start down this track now. Let's see what the pros have to say about today's mess.
Go on, take the nice pills again!
The dead pygmy hippopotamus, which is believed to have come from an old zoo on Tipperary Station. (Supplied)
Map: Darwin 0800
The manager of a cattle station in the Douglas Daly region south-west of Darwin says he feels devastated and horrified to have shot a pygmy hippopotamus on Saturday night.
The man, who prefers to go by his first name only - Nico, says he shot the hippopotamus while conducting routine feral animal control on the cattle station.
Pygmy hippos are an African rainforest species, classified as being vulnerable, which is just one step away from an endangered classification.
Nico says he would never have deliberately shot the hippo, which is thought to have escaped from millionaire property developer Warren Anderson's former zoo on Tipperary Station.
"[I was] driving across the paddock and saw it from the distance in the spotlight and thought it was a pig," he said.
"You don't expect to see a hippo out here in the paddock and so we hunted after it and let a shot off out of the rifle and it dropped. had a look at it and thought what the hell is that?
"We knew it wasn't a pig, which is what we thought it was, that is what it looked like. It ran like one, it moved like one, it looked like a pig."
Nico says he feels sick in the stomach after accidentally slaughtering the rare species.
"It is just a smaller version of a hippo that has got a head like a hippo and it just looks like a pig," he said.
"I am a bit disgusted, sick to my stomach. It is on the way to get taxidermied, to get it all put together so people can see it.
"It is not really a trophy or something you would brag about. It makes you feel sick."
Map: Darwin 0800
The manager of a cattle station in the Douglas Daly region south-west of Darwin says he feels devastated and horrified to have shot a pygmy hippopotamus on Saturday night.
The man, who prefers to go by his first name only - Nico, says he shot the hippopotamus while conducting routine feral animal control on the cattle station.
Pygmy hippos are an African rainforest species, classified as being vulnerable, which is just one step away from an endangered classification.
Nico says he would never have deliberately shot the hippo, which is thought to have escaped from millionaire property developer Warren Anderson's former zoo on Tipperary Station.
"[I was] driving across the paddock and saw it from the distance in the spotlight and thought it was a pig," he said.
"You don't expect to see a hippo out here in the paddock and so we hunted after it and let a shot off out of the rifle and it dropped. had a look at it and thought what the hell is that?
"We knew it wasn't a pig, which is what we thought it was, that is what it looked like. It ran like one, it moved like one, it looked like a pig."
Nico says he feels sick in the stomach after accidentally slaughtering the rare species.
"It is just a smaller version of a hippo that has got a head like a hippo and it just looks like a pig," he said.
"I am a bit disgusted, sick to my stomach. It is on the way to get taxidermied, to get it all put together so people can see it.
"It is not really a trophy or something you would brag about. It makes you feel sick."
This is an incredibaly sad situation and I feel for the hunter as from what I have read and what Steve has said, he is the only one who has nothing to feel remorse or guilt for and yet he does.
To me this is so typical of Govt. organisations. Steve you are to me commended for at least wanting and aiming to give it a go to do something about the situation.
To me this is so typical of Govt. organisations. Steve you are to me commended for at least wanting and aiming to give it a go to do something about the situation.
UN @#$%ING BELIEVEABLE!!!!!!!!
what a coincidence too.
all i can say is that i am speechless. i am appalled, no disgusted at the complete lack of professionalism by a number of parties involved. and i am shocked at that, as has been mentioned before, a bunch of amateurs here on the internet were discussing rumours of a feral pygmy hippopotamus, and yet people who actually work in the industry, who's job it is to address the issue - didn't do anything.
if this is the sort of irresponsible people we are dealing with - then suddenly, i understand why zoos are kept on such tight leashes from the authorities. and yet i cant understand how the authorities allowed it either...
gobsmacked.
what a coincidence too.
all i can say is that i am speechless. i am appalled, no disgusted at the complete lack of professionalism by a number of parties involved. and i am shocked at that, as has been mentioned before, a bunch of amateurs here on the internet were discussing rumours of a feral pygmy hippopotamus, and yet people who actually work in the industry, who's job it is to address the issue - didn't do anything.
if this is the sort of irresponsible people we are dealing with - then suddenly, i understand why zoos are kept on such tight leashes from the authorities. and yet i cant understand how the authorities allowed it either...
gobsmacked.
MARK
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you know from the first time steve dropped a hint that there was a pygmy hippo still on tipperary station - i had assumed that the animal was still being held there legally - and was being cared for.
in actual fact what we had here was a feral hippo. which makes it all the more irresponsible. we all have made comments on the overly strict policies of the queensland government regarding the importation of many of the ungulates from tipperary into their state. us aficionados scoffed at feral zebras and put forth the argument that no zoo would let such valuable animals just run off into the bush.
well they did. from the biosecurity point of view - it was female too. the idea that this hippo could have been pregnant and reproduced is not as preposterous as it seems. clearly, it survived there for a long time.
but from an animal welfare point of view - what a disgrace. what a disgrace the whole tipperary/mareeba incident has been.
whilst those individuals involved are ultimately responsible, i do think ARAZPA and their hands off approach has been more than pathetic. sure, legally the major zoos have nothing forcing them to do anything. but the fact that the australian zoo industry turned their backs, despite the fact that it was against their own interests to do so - just illustrates a warped sense of priorities. whilst they didn't own the tipparary animals, let s not forget that they offloaded a bunch of bears and primates to mareeba when it suited them. in response to the parks liquidation they changed their policy regarding animal dispositions, but stopped well short of intervention.
this is a association that supposedly has a pygmy hippo breeding program (albeit a half baked one that can barely manage a transfers of animals from melbourne and adelaide) and also knows that its program is limited and at risk by the low number of
animals of breeding age in the country, animals that cannot be replaced anytime soon.
the fact that a young female was left wild in the bush with no owner and no care, despite it being common knowledge is embarrassing. whilst again, its not the associations legal responsibility - it shows a complete lack of dedication to the preservation of their animals, the environment and animal welfare.
in actual fact what we had here was a feral hippo. which makes it all the more irresponsible. we all have made comments on the overly strict policies of the queensland government regarding the importation of many of the ungulates from tipperary into their state. us aficionados scoffed at feral zebras and put forth the argument that no zoo would let such valuable animals just run off into the bush.
well they did. from the biosecurity point of view - it was female too. the idea that this hippo could have been pregnant and reproduced is not as preposterous as it seems. clearly, it survived there for a long time.
but from an animal welfare point of view - what a disgrace. what a disgrace the whole tipperary/mareeba incident has been.
whilst those individuals involved are ultimately responsible, i do think ARAZPA and their hands off approach has been more than pathetic. sure, legally the major zoos have nothing forcing them to do anything. but the fact that the australian zoo industry turned their backs, despite the fact that it was against their own interests to do so - just illustrates a warped sense of priorities. whilst they didn't own the tipparary animals, let s not forget that they offloaded a bunch of bears and primates to mareeba when it suited them. in response to the parks liquidation they changed their policy regarding animal dispositions, but stopped well short of intervention.
this is a association that supposedly has a pygmy hippo breeding program (albeit a half baked one that can barely manage a transfers of animals from melbourne and adelaide) and also knows that its program is limited and at risk by the low number of
animals of breeding age in the country, animals that cannot be replaced anytime soon.
the fact that a young female was left wild in the bush with no owner and no care, despite it being common knowledge is embarrassing. whilst again, its not the associations legal responsibility - it shows a complete lack of dedication to the preservation of their animals, the environment and animal welfare.
brad09
Well-Known Member
Where is PETA, the RSPCA, The Greens or the Humane Society in all of this. Haven't heard a word from any of them about it yet.
hopefully we dont here from them, we dont need any antizoo people weighing in on a matter that has been delt with very very poorly. this will just help to give zoos a bad name wich we dont wont.
MARK
Well-Known Member
this is a association that supposedly has a pygmy hippo breeding program (albeit a half baked one that can barely manage a transfers of animals from melbourne and adelaide) and also knows that its program is limited and at risk by the low number of animals of breeding age in the country said:You are right on about the half baked breeding program.
I had asked on this forum quite a while back now (for those in the know and they know who they are) why the few Pygmy Hippo's left in Australia were not put together years ago, NO reply?, nothing?, it would appear that this species did not matter much in our zoo's and when someone did finally wake up at the 11th hour they find "low and behold" that they can, after all the years these animal lived alone now they are breeding, Wow it's magic
