Animals No Longer At Your Zoo You'd Like To See There Again

For the Alaska Zoo it would great if we could get the following animals back:

Grey Wolves
Glacier Bear (Localized color phase of the American Black Bear)
Arctic Fox
Snowy Owl
Dall Sheep
 
A sad reality, but I am satisfied that these other cats are also getting a fresh home.
Yeah, I never like to see species leave, but the pumas are settling in great and are a hit with visitors. Maybe they'll have servals again once the Amur leopard cubs from last year go out to other facilities. Its entirely possible that they still have one bts.
 
My closest zoo used to house both primates (not sure on the exact species) and amur leopards. I don't recall seeing the amur leopards, but I would have been 2 (I think) when they were removed for whatever reason. The primates were removed well before my time. Both are species I'd love to see return, but if I'm honest I doubt they are on their must-obtain list right now. Maybe one day!
 
For the Philadelphia zoo it would be
Red Shanked Douc
Okapi
Indian Rhino
Elephant
Aardvark
Fishing Cat
Capybara
Saddle Billed Stork
Bearded Pig
Polar Bear
Asiatic Black Bear
Southern Ground Hornbill
Giant Anteater
Parma Wallaby
and all the animals that were taken out of the small mammal house.
 
For the Philadelphia zoo it would be
Red Shanked Douc
Okapi
Indian Rhino
Elephant
Aardvark
Fishing Cat
Capybara
Saddle Billed Stork
Bearded Pig
Polar Bear
Asiatic Black Bear
Southern Ground Hornbill
Giant Anteater
Parma Wallaby
and all the animals that were taken out of the small mammal house.
  • Not likely unless Philly pulled a ZooParc De Beauval.
  • Unless they did a Congo area/had the okapi utilize the long-rumored Large Mammal Trails, not likely.
  • Philly should differentiate itself rhinowise from Maryland and Bronx, honestly I'd say they should pull a Lincoln Park and get black rhinos when Tony the white rhino passes on/gets transferred. Pretty cold tolerant, require less space, etc.
  • Sadly not likely. I personally think they have the space for a bachelor group of elephants (at least), plus Zoo360/the opportunity to fill in Bird Lake for the giraffes/general large mammal habitat. Like, the space of the old Children's Zoo/picnic area and the space of Bird Lake being large mammal habitats connected by 360 trails totals to about 5-6 acres, which is plenty of usable space for elephants, and is especially a lot of space for giraffe, ostrich, ankole cattle, zebra, rhino (and hopefully hippo). I'm probably the most enthusiastic guy here who wants to see elephants back at Philly, but the main issue (to my understanding) is funding + lack of interest.
  • YES. Rare Animal Conservation Center'd be perfect for these guys.
  • Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls'd be perfect for fishing cat! Honestly I think they should be in the grotto next to the main giant otter habitat.
  • Possible, but I don't see how they could fit within the zoo. Maybe in KidZooU?
  • Issue is wing-clipping/providing a good aviary space for them to fly around in. Otherwise I'd be on board.
  • Phase out species. :(
  • As cool (no pun intended) as they'd be, I do think the penguins are a damn good replacement. That said, they did construct Penguin Point in such a way that it could be easily repurposed, so who knows?
  • Also a phase out species. :mad:
  • ...they still have southern ground hornbill - in Princess the Andean condor's former habitat next to the Avian Center
  • Same story with the capybara.
  • I guess you could throw them in with the kangaroos and emus? Issue is I think the AZA's primarily focusing on Bennett's.
  • African striped weasel, not likely. Echidna'd require some teeth pulling, but it's not *impossible*. Past that, the Small Mammal House was closed mainly for ventilation reasons, and COVID just cemented that. So the zoo's basically working to rehome the small mammals throughout the campus - I am actually excited to see the vampire bats in Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls!
 
I guess you could throw them in with the kangaroos and emus? Issue is I think the AZA's primarily focusing on Bennett's.
AZA is focused on Bennett's and Tammar Wallabies. There's also a smaller population of Rock Wallabies in the AZA as well, and the Parma Wallaby population is all but doomed due to the sex imbalance and small size of the population (same story as with tinamous).
 
  • Not likely unless Philly pulled a ZooParc De Beauval.
  • Unless they did a Congo area/had the okapi utilize the long-rumored Large Mammal Trails, not likely.
  • Philly should differentiate itself rhinowise from Maryland and Bronx, honestly I'd say they should pull a Lincoln Park and get black rhinos when Tony the white rhino passes on/gets transferred. Pretty cold tolerant, require less space, etc.
  • Sadly not likely. I personally think they have the space for a bachelor group of elephants (at least), plus Zoo360/the opportunity to fill in Bird Lake for the giraffes/general large mammal habitat. Like, the space of the old Children's Zoo/picnic area and the space of Bird Lake being large mammal habitats connected by 360 trails totals to about 5-6 acres, which is plenty of usable space for elephants, and is especially a lot of space for giraffe, ostrich, ankole cattle, zebra, rhino (and hopefully hippo). I'm probably the most enthusiastic guy here who wants to see elephants back at Philly, but the main issue (to my understanding) is funding + lack of interest.
  • YES. Rare Animal Conservation Center'd be perfect for these guys.
  • Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls'd be perfect for fishing cat! Honestly I think they should be in the grotto next to the main giant otter habitat.
  • Possible, but I don't see how they could fit within the zoo. Maybe in KidZooU?
  • Issue is wing-clipping/providing a good aviary space for them to fly around in. Otherwise I'd be on board.
  • Phase out species. :(
  • As cool (no pun intended) as they'd be, I do think the penguins are a damn good replacement. That said, they did construct Penguin Point in such a way that it could be easily repurposed, so who knows?
  • Also a phase out species. :mad:
  • ...they still have southern ground hornbill - in Princess the Andean condor's former habitat next to the Avian Center
  • Same story with the capybara.
  • I guess you could throw them in with the kangaroos and emus? Issue is I think the AZA's primarily focusing on Bennett's.
  • African striped weasel, not likely. Echidna'd require some teeth pulling, but it's not *impossible*. Past that, the Small Mammal House was closed mainly for ventilation reasons, and COVID just cemented that. So the zoo's basically working to rehome the small mammals throughout the campus - I am actually excited to see the vampire bats in Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls!
Oh okay I didn’t know that they still had capybaras and southern ground hornbills.
 
They don't have capybara anymore (not for a *long* while) but they do still have the hornbills.
Oh okay thanks for letting me know because it’s been a very long time since I’ve been there and all I can remember regarding the hornbill was them being right next to the hippos where the kids zoo is currently and regarding the fishing cat that part of the zoo where you say that they can put the fishing cat was where it was but it’s no longer there but instead of the grotto next to the river otters they were in a grotto that was right next to where they had Canadian lynx.
 
  • Not likely unless Philly pulled a ZooParc De Beauval.
  • Unless they did a Congo area/had the okapi utilize the long-rumored Large Mammal Trails, not likely.
  • Philly should differentiate itself rhinowise from Maryland and Bronx, honestly I'd say they should pull a Lincoln Park and get black rhinos when Tony the white rhino passes on/gets transferred. Pretty cold tolerant, require less space, etc.
  • Sadly not likely. I personally think they have the space for a bachelor group of elephants (at least), plus Zoo360/the opportunity to fill in Bird Lake for the giraffes/general large mammal habitat. Like, the space of the old Children's Zoo/picnic area and the space of Bird Lake being large mammal habitats connected by 360 trails totals to about 5-6 acres, which is plenty of usable space for elephants, and is especially a lot of space for giraffe, ostrich, ankole cattle, zebra, rhino (and hopefully hippo). I'm probably the most enthusiastic guy here who wants to see elephants back at Philly, but the main issue (to my understanding) is funding + lack of interest.
  • YES. Rare Animal Conservation Center'd be perfect for these guys.
  • Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls'd be perfect for fishing cat! Honestly I think they should be in the grotto next to the main giant otter habitat.
  • Possible, but I don't see how they could fit within the zoo. Maybe in KidZooU?
  • Issue is wing-clipping/providing a good aviary space for them to fly around in. Otherwise I'd be on board.
  • Phase out species. :(
  • As cool (no pun intended) as they'd be, I do think the penguins are a damn good replacement. That said, they did construct Penguin Point in such a way that it could be easily repurposed, so who knows?
  • Also a phase out species. :mad:
  • ...they still have southern ground hornbill - in Princess the Andean condor's former habitat next to the Avian Center
  • Same story with the capybara.
  • I guess you could throw them in with the kangaroos and emus? Issue is I think the AZA's primarily focusing on Bennett's.
  • African striped weasel, not likely. Echidna'd require some teeth pulling, but it's not *impossible*. Past that, the Small Mammal House was closed mainly for ventilation reasons, and COVID just cemented that. So the zoo's basically working to rehome the small mammals throughout the campus - I am actually excited to see the vampire bats in Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls!
I know there are mutterings of wanting elephants back in Philly but I feel like with the standard set by zoos like Omaha and Portland, it's such an undertaking that it's genuinely intimidating.

If it were me, I'd use elephants as an excuse to redo the whole Southern side of the zoo to be a cohesive African savannah section with the giraffes, zebras, rhinos (replace white with black), maybe hippos, and have the elephants as a centerpiece

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  • Not likely unless Philly pulled a ZooParc De Beauval.
  • Unless they did a Congo area/had the okapi utilize the long-rumored Large Mammal Trails, not likely.
  • Philly should differentiate itself rhinowise from Maryland and Bronx, honestly I'd say they should pull a Lincoln Park and get black rhinos when Tony the white rhino passes on/gets transferred. Pretty cold tolerant, require less space, etc.
  • Sadly not likely. I personally think they have the space for a bachelor group of elephants (at least), plus Zoo360/the opportunity to fill in Bird Lake for the giraffes/general large mammal habitat. Like, the space of the old Children's Zoo/picnic area and the space of Bird Lake being large mammal habitats connected by 360 trails totals to about 5-6 acres, which is plenty of usable space for elephants, and is especially a lot of space for giraffe, ostrich, ankole cattle, zebra, rhino (and hopefully hippo). I'm probably the most enthusiastic guy here who wants to see elephants back at Philly, but the main issue (to my understanding) is funding + lack of interest.
  • YES. Rare Animal Conservation Center'd be perfect for these guys.
  • Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls'd be perfect for fishing cat! Honestly I think they should be in the grotto next to the main giant otter habitat.
  • Possible, but I don't see how they could fit within the zoo. Maybe in KidZooU?
  • Issue is wing-clipping/providing a good aviary space for them to fly around in. Otherwise I'd be on board.
  • Phase out species. :(
  • As cool (no pun intended) as they'd be, I do think the penguins are a damn good replacement. That said, they did construct Penguin Point in such a way that it could be easily repurposed, so who knows?
  • Also a phase out species. :mad:
  • ...they still have southern ground hornbill - in Princess the Andean condor's former habitat next to the Avian Center
  • Same story with the capybara.
  • I guess you could throw them in with the kangaroos and emus? Issue is I think the AZA's primarily focusing on Bennett's.
  • African striped weasel, not likely. Echidna'd require some teeth pulling, but it's not *impossible*. Past that, the Small Mammal House was closed mainly for ventilation reasons, and COVID just cemented that. So the zoo's basically working to rehome the small mammals throughout the campus - I am actually excited to see the vampire bats in Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls!
  • Not likely unless Philly pulled a ZooParc De Beauval.
  • Unless they did a Congo area/had the okapi utilize the long-rumored Large Mammal Trails, not likely.
  • Philly should differentiate itself rhinowise from Maryland and Bronx, honestly I'd say they should pull a Lincoln Park and get black rhinos when Tony the white rhino passes on/gets transferred. Pretty cold tolerant, require less space, etc.
  • Sadly not likely. I personally think they have the space for a bachelor group of elephants (at least), plus Zoo360/the opportunity to fill in Bird Lake for the giraffes/general large mammal habitat. Like, the space of the old Children's Zoo/picnic area and the space of Bird Lake being large mammal habitats connected by 360 trails totals to about 5-6 acres, which is plenty of usable space for elephants, and is especially a lot of space for giraffe, ostrich, ankole cattle, zebra, rhino (and hopefully hippo). I'm probably the most enthusiastic guy here who wants to see elephants back at Philly, but the main issue (to my understanding) is funding + lack of interest.
  • YES. Rare Animal Conservation Center'd be perfect for these guys.
  • Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls'd be perfect for fishing cat! Honestly I think they should be in the grotto next to the main giant otter habitat.
  • Possible, but I don't see how they could fit within the zoo. Maybe in KidZooU?
  • Issue is wing-clipping/providing a good aviary space for them to fly around in. Otherwise I'd be on board.
  • Phase out species. :(
  • As cool (no pun intended) as they'd be, I do think the penguins are a damn good replacement. That said, they did construct Penguin Point in such a way that it could be easily repurposed, so who knows?
  • Also a phase out species. :mad:
  • ...they still have southern ground hornbill - in Princess the Andean condor's former habitat next to the Avian Center
  • Same story with the capybara.
  • I guess you could throw them in with the kangaroos and emus? Issue is I think the AZA's primarily focusing on Bennett's.
  • African striped weasel, not likely. Echidna'd require some teeth pulling, but it's not *impossible*. Past that, the Small Mammal House was closed mainly for ventilation reasons, and COVID just cemented that. So the zoo's basically working to rehome the small mammals throughout the campus - I am actually excited to see the vampire bats in Red Panda Pass/Otter Falls!
Okay I am not really sure if it was a Parma wallaby it could have been a Tamar but with the okapi like I remember it used to be where the children’s zoo is now and then they moved it to a pen that had anteaters but with the rhinos thing could they pull like Sumatran or Javan rhinos but with the saddle billed storks they weren’t in the aviary they were instead across from the giraffe and like I feel that they should have taken down the wall that separates the giraffes from the rhino and the zebras or put in animals with the giraffes and I forgot some animals that i wanted to put the list of animals that I would like to back at the Philadelphia zoo and those animals are the coatimundi
Brown Pelican and walldrap ibis and the coatimundi was right at the beginning of carnivore kingdom right on the side next to the African animals and the pelican was right over by the otters.
 
There have been a *lot* of species I'd like to see return to the Minnesota Zoo, but I'll try and keep my lost as short as possible.

. Albert's Squirrel
. Golden Snub-Nosed Monkey
. Wild Boar
. Goitered Gazelle
. American Elk
. Musk Oxen
. Chinese Dhole
. Ermine
. Long-Tailed Weasel
. Long-Eared Owl
. Great Gray Owl
. Eastern Spotted Skunk
. Southern Flying Squirrel
. Long-Toothed Palm Civet
. Common Palm Civet
. Banded Linsang
. Feret-Badger
. Northern Luzon Giant Cloud Rat
. Sunda Leopard Cat
. Fishing Cat
. Clouded Leopard
. Sulawesi Crested Macaque
. Lion Tailed Macaque
. Visayan Warty Pig
. Transcaspian Urail
. Nigiri Thar
. Sun Bear
. Southern Pudu
. Reeve's Muntjac
. Flying Snake
. Greater Malayan Chevrotain
. Gaudy Red-Throated Barbet
. Mangrove Kingfisher
. Sora
. Red Ruffed Lemur
 
Okay I am not really sure if it was a Parma wallaby it could have been a Tamar but with the okapi like I remember it used to be where the children’s zoo is now and then they moved it to a pen that had anteaters but with the rhinos thing could they pull like Sumatran or Javan rhinos but with the saddle billed storks they weren’t in the aviary they were instead across from the giraffe and like I feel that they should have taken down the wall that separates the giraffes from the rhino and the zebras or put in animals with the giraffes and I forgot some animals that i wanted to put the list of animals that I would like to back at the Philadelphia zoo and those animals are the coatimundi
Brown Pelican and walldrap ibis and the coatimundi was right at the beginning of carnivore kingdom right on the side next to the African animals and the pelican was right over by the otters.
With all due respect, there is legit no way in hell that any AZA zoo is getting Javan or Sumatran rhinos. Ideally they could get some Javan DNA and maybe use that to clone some with Indian rhino surrogates but that's just fantastical speculation
 
With all due respect, there is legit no way in hell that any AZA zoo is getting Javan or Sumatran rhinos. Ideally they could get some Javan DNA and maybe use that to clone some with Indian rhino surrogates but that's just fantastical speculation
Oh okay but wait how did Cincinnati get the Sumatran rhino.
 
My nearest zoo, the Lake District Wildlife Park, used to have a very impressive reptile house, with the biggest highlight for me being the alligator snapping turtles. But today their reptile collection has shrank down to a very small handful of lizards, snakes and tortoises, many of which are kept off-show and only brought out for keeper talks. While the few reptiles they do still have include a few gems like an impressive Burmese rock python and yellow anacondas, I'd still love to see a few more reptiles added at some point. Perhaps unlikely, because a portion of the reptile house is currently being re-developed into a taxidermy display area.

Up until very recently, the Lake District Wildlife Park also kept squirrel monkeys and Asian palm civets, but both are gone now, with the old civet enclosure being re-developed for some type of bird (the keeper I was talking to couldn't remember the name).
 
Oh okay but wait how did Cincinnati get the Sumatran rhino.

Cincinnati was one of several institutions that received rhinos around the same time as part of a last ditch attempt to breed them ex-situ. It went pretty horribly with most of the animals never breeding stateside. Cincinnati's marginal success was an outlier and eventually all of the remaining animals were repatriated to their home region. Given the lack of success of the initial attempt, another one will not be made with the focus of the project shifting to breeding the animals in semi managed situations within their natural range.

This also happened during a time when collection of large mammals from the wild was a bit less frowned upon then it is today. All this to say, no zoo in their right mind is going to try and even if they did, the country of origin is extremely unlikely to let anyone else try given how poorly most others did.
 
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