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Animals You've Seen That Few Zoochatters Have Seen
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cloudedleopard611
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Yeah, I heard some people saying they had some over there as well.
GiornoPizza
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Hard to think of everything, but here’s what I have so far:
Sumatran Rhino at Cincinnati
Antillean manatee, brown throated three toed sloth, jabiru, Yapok, largetooth sawfish, red howler monkey - Dallas World Aquarium
Dugong - Sea Life Sydney
A few that basically people only who live or have been to Australia will have seen like quokkas, platypus, Australian sea lion, kangaroo island kangaroo.
I’ve seen tuatara at both holders in the US
Think that’s most of the uncommon species I have seen in zoos. Of course if you’ve been to Dallas World Aquarium or Australia you’d see most of these animals.
Sumatran Rhino at Cincinnati
Antillean manatee, brown throated three toed sloth, jabiru, Yapok, largetooth sawfish, red howler monkey - Dallas World Aquarium
Dugong - Sea Life Sydney
A few that basically people only who live or have been to Australia will have seen like quokkas, platypus, Australian sea lion, kangaroo island kangaroo.
I’ve seen tuatara at both holders in the US
Think that’s most of the uncommon species I have seen in zoos. Of course if you’ve been to Dallas World Aquarium or Australia you’d see most of these animals.
Both holders that actually have displayed them I assume? This being Dallas and Toledo?
GiornoPizza
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Yeah, maybe both current holders? I know St Louis and San Diego have had them, I had read a while ago. However the Dallas Zoo recently posted that them and Toledo were the only two AZA facilities that cared for them, which I’m assuming means the other two no longer hold them? Link: Login • Instagram
The wording of the post would certainly imply that possibility, but I'd be surprised if San Diego didn't still have theirs. Though given St. Louis and San Diego have never displayed their animals, maybe it's a altered PR statement so people aren't asking?
Anyone chance to know the status of Tuatara at the two facilities in question?
Aardwolf
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Tuatara have indeed been on display at St Louis before - it’s where I saw and photographed my first one in 2007
A few days ago I had a Lifer at the Cape Verdian islands. During a stop-over on Sal ( one of the Cape Verdian islands ) a saw my first Cape Verdian sparrows, a species I had been looking before years ago ( see Searching the Cape verdian sparrow...in the Netherlands ). Because no ZooChatter has ever reported been on the Cape Verdians I guess few ( if any ? ) have ever seen the species.
The National Zoo of South Africa, keeps a single African Woolly-necked Stork. According to zootierliste they were kept in Germany until last year, but they lack appearance in the Zoochat gallery.
Which got me wondering if I could possibly be the only zoochatter that has seen African woolly-necked stork? If anybody else has seen this wonderful species, do tell!
Which got me wondering if I could possibly be the only zoochatter that has seen African woolly-necked stork? If anybody else has seen this wonderful species, do tell!
Yes, in the wild.
I have also seen this species in the wild. The individual at the National Zoo must have arrived after my time there.
Another species seen by me and ( I think ) by very few other ZooChatters is the West African red colobus ( Piliocolobus badius ). From this species 3 subspecies are known of which 2 are classified as being endangered ( P. b. badius and P. b. temminckii ) and one even Critically endangered ( P.b. waldronae ). Because the countries in which the species is found ( West Africa ) is visited not by many ZooChatters and the species is at the moment completly unknown in captivity the species is quite unknown and in our Gallery it was untill I uploaded some photo's I made of the Temminck's red colobus only represented by a museum-specimen.
In the past the species has been kept at very few European collections ( info Zootierliste ) :
Piliocolobus badius without subspecies status - Antwerp : end of the 1950s
- Frankfurt : 1963
Piliocolobus badius badius ( Sierra Leone red colobus ) - Cologne : 1976 - 1978
- Banham Zoo : 1973 - 1977
Piliocolobus badius temminckii ( Temminck's red colobus ) - Hannover : 1963 - 1964
- London Zoo : 1890
Piliocolobus badius waldronae ( Miss Waldron's red colobus - never kept in European zoos
As you see, all kept already a while ago and maybe some of the older ZooChatters may have seen the species in one of these collections.
I saw the subspecies P. b. temminckii in the wild in Gambia and althrough it is classified Endangered I saw it at 3 different places :
Abuko Nature Reserve : on 2 different days I saw several groups and also a singleton. A ranger told me that in the park there are at least 9 different family-groups.
Bijilo Nature Reserve : not a clue how many there are in this reserve but I saw lots of them and they were not shy at all.
Tanji Bird Reserve : here the animals were very shy and I only catched a glimpse of a small group on quite a distance.
The species is btw also known as Bay red colobus, Rust red colobus and Upper Guinea red colobus.
Photo of an animal at the Bijilo Nature Reserve :
In the past the species has been kept at very few European collections ( info Zootierliste ) :
Piliocolobus badius without subspecies status - Antwerp : end of the 1950s
- Frankfurt : 1963
Piliocolobus badius badius ( Sierra Leone red colobus ) - Cologne : 1976 - 1978
- Banham Zoo : 1973 - 1977
Piliocolobus badius temminckii ( Temminck's red colobus ) - Hannover : 1963 - 1964
- London Zoo : 1890
Piliocolobus badius waldronae ( Miss Waldron's red colobus - never kept in European zoos
As you see, all kept already a while ago and maybe some of the older ZooChatters may have seen the species in one of these collections.
I saw the subspecies P. b. temminckii in the wild in Gambia and althrough it is classified Endangered I saw it at 3 different places :
Abuko Nature Reserve : on 2 different days I saw several groups and also a singleton. A ranger told me that in the park there are at least 9 different family-groups.
Bijilo Nature Reserve : not a clue how many there are in this reserve but I saw lots of them and they were not shy at all.
Tanji Bird Reserve : here the animals were very shy and I only catched a glimpse of a small group on quite a distance.
The species is btw also known as Bay red colobus, Rust red colobus and Upper Guinea red colobus.
Photo of an animal at the Bijilo Nature Reserve :
I guess that when this post was started back in 2018, it was aimed at zoo animals?
This will mean that older contributors must have seen species unknown to younger ones, especially with the wild bird trade stopping in Europe. Some well established spp like Gough Island Moorhens are long gone now, and others that cropped up sporadically in the bird trade like Seedsnipe and Black Wood Partridges.... Indian Desert Cat...? Some mutations too which dont appear to have persisted like 'lavender' Sonnerat's Junglefowl, 'blue' European Moorhens.. there must be many others which dont immediately spring to my mind. Have Blood Pheasants and Snowcock gone too?
This will mean that older contributors must have seen species unknown to younger ones, especially with the wild bird trade stopping in Europe. Some well established spp like Gough Island Moorhens are long gone now, and others that cropped up sporadically in the bird trade like Seedsnipe and Black Wood Partridges.... Indian Desert Cat...? Some mutations too which dont appear to have persisted like 'lavender' Sonnerat's Junglefowl, 'blue' European Moorhens.. there must be many others which dont immediately spring to my mind. Have Blood Pheasants and Snowcock gone too?
I believe the last Blood Pheasants in a European public collection died around 20 years ago - they presumably hung around in private hands for a while longer, but I don't think there are any left.
Snowcock *might* still be around in private hands, albeit in small numbers. Pretty much the entire population in European public collections died off over the course of the last 10-15 years, with the last individuals being a briefly-held animal at Kirkleatham Owl Centre in 2016 (which came from a private breeder) and a geriatric at Tierpark Berlin which died in 2017, but I seem to recall seeing a photograph taken at a private collection on the continent more recently than this.
Sicarius
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The last blood pheasants were bred by a Belgian guy until a few years ago. The collection was then sold to Spain(?) and the Czech Republic. Those last birds have now perished if I'm not mistaken. Snowcock should indeed still be around but have become very, very rare. The last time I heard of one was 2 years ago.
