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Are there any Indris in captivity? I believe they don't do well in captivity but I heard it mentioned somewhere so I thought I would ask.
 
Are there any Indris in captivity? I believe they don't do well in captivity but I heard it mentioned somewhere so I thought I would ask.
Indri's have never been successful in captivity, mainly because of their specific diet. Attempts in Madagascar have probably been made, but none in zoos afaik.
 
Are there any Indris in captivity? I believe they don't do well in captivity but I heard it mentioned somewhere so I thought I would ask.
Indri's have never been successful in captivity, mainly because of their specific diet. Attempts in Madagascar have probably been made, but none in zoos afaik.
There were short-lived indri in Paris in 1939 and in San Diego in the1960s.

I am unaware of any other indri ever being kept outside Madagascar.
 
There were short-lived indri in Paris in 1939 and in San Diego in the1960s.

I am unaware of any other indri ever being kept outside Madagascar.
They were? Thats very interesting. Any information about the Indris at Sand diego and Paris?
 
There were short-lived indri in Paris in 1939 and in San Diego in the1960s.

I am unaware of any other indri ever being kept outside Madagascar.
Knew about the Paris zoo that had the for a year
I feel like if any US zoo would have had them at one point it would have been San Diego
 
They were? Thats very interesting. Any information about the Indris at Sand diego and Paris?
According to his book “The Management of Wild Mammals in Captivity” (1964) Lee Crandall records that “eight or ten specimens were received at the Paris Menagerie in 1939, all of which died within one month”.

Similar comments about indri in Paris are also made in both "Handbook of Living Primates" (Napier & Napier, 1967) and "Primates. 1. Strepsirhini" (Osman Hill, 1953). Unfortunately none of these sources provide further details about the Paris animals.

The book "Longevity of Mammals in Captivity; From the Living Collections of the World” (Richard Weigl; 2005) lists a male indri that lived for eleven days in San Diego (between 4th and 11th September 1965). Weigl makes no mention of the Paris specimens.
 
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According to his book “The Management of Wild Mammals in Captivity” (1964) Lee Crandall records that “eight or ten specimens were received at the Paris Menagerie in 1939, all of which died within one month”.

Similar comments about indri in Paris are also made in both "Handbook of Living Primates" (Napier & Napier, 1967) and "Primates. 1. Strepsirhini" (Osman Hill, 1953). Unfortunately none of thrse sources provide further details about the Paris animals.

The book "Longevity of Mammals in Captivity; From the Living Collections of the World” (Richard Weigl; 2005) lists a male indri that lived for eleven days in San Diego (between 4th and 11th September 1965). Weigl makes no mention of the Paris specimens.
Thanks! It was just interesting to hear, and zoo history is definitely something I would like to touch on a little more, what books do you recommend about the history of zoos?
 
According to his book “The Management of Wild Mammals in Captivity” (1964) Lee Crandall records that “eight or ten specimens were received at the Paris Menagerie in 1939, all of which died within one month”.

Similar comments about indri in Paris are also made in both "Handbook of Living Primates" (Napier & Napier, 1967) and "Primates. 1. Strepsirhini" (Osman Hill, 1953). Unfortunately none of thrse sources provide further details about the Paris animals.

The book "Longevity of Mammals in Captivity; From the Living Collections of the World” (Richard Weigl; 2005) lists a male indri that lived for eleven days in San Diego (between 4th and 11th September 1965). Weigl makes no mention of the Paris specimens.

It would be interesting to know how long the indris had been in transport, length and treatment during potentially causing irreversible issues. Observing the longer survival date for Paris' than San Diego's makes me wonder, given the farther travel distance from Madagascar.
 
Thanks! It was just interesting to hear, and zoo history is definitely something I would like to touch on a little more, what books do you recommend about the history of zoos?
In my post about indris, I mentioned the following two books:
  • The Management of Wild Mammals in Captivity” (Lee Crandall, 1964)
  • "Longevity of Mammals in Captivity; From the Living Collections of the World” (Richard Weigl; 2005)
both of which contain a wealth of interesting information and are thoroughly recommended.

I also suggest you read through the following thread:

Zoo History Books

which lists many different books about zoo history.
 
TSLP had a major die-off of tuna a couple years ago, they were all doing fine but then started dropping like flies. No cause was found but disease/water contamination seems likely.

Japanese aquariums have some of the most impressive collections in the world, to be sure. And they’ve managed to exhibit several difficult species with varying levels of success, especially since the 1980s. But their animal husbandry track record is... spotty at best. That large great white dying after three days in 2016, the frilled and goblin sharks kept in tiny, brightly-lit tanks, many of which have mysteriously died shortly after being put on display... it goes on and on. Their aquarists clearly are ambitious. But if you cannot look after the needs of a species, you shouldn’t be exhibiting it. I hate to generalize an entire country, but, I’ve seen some not-so-great things over the years of my travels there.
 
In my post about indris, I mentioned the following two books:
  • The Management of Wild Mammals in Captivity” (Lee Crandall, 1964)
  • "Longevity of Mammals in Captivity; From the Living Collections of the World” (Richard Weigl; 2005)
both of which contain a wealth of interesting information and are thoroughly recommended.

I also suggest you read through the following thread:

Zoo History Books

which lists many different books about zoo history.
Thank you so much!
 
Japanese aquariums have some of the most impressive collections in the world, to be sure. And they’ve managed to exhibit several difficult species with varying levels of success, especially since the 1980s. But their animal husbandry track record is... spotty at best. That large great white dying after three days in 2016, the frilled and goblin sharks kept in tiny, brightly-lit tanks, many of which have mysteriously died shortly after being put on display... it goes on and on. Their aquarists clearly are ambitious. But if you cannot look after the needs of a species, you shouldn’t be exhibiting it. I hate to generalize an entire country, but, I’ve seen some not-so-great things over the years of my travels there.
I think part of the issue with the Goblin Sharks is that they are almost always caught in trawls and are in poor condition even before they get to the aquarium. Small brightly-lit tanks certainly do not help though.
 
I think part of the issue with the Goblin Sharks is that they are almost always caught in trawls and are in poor condition even before they get to the aquarium. Small brightly-lit tanks certainly do not help though.
Hopefully, when MBA opens their new deep-sea exhibit we will have better techniques to be able to successfully hold this species
 
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