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Connor91

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Anyone know if any progress has been made on getting a companion for Burma?

I know Auckland Zoo has now confimred it will be going ahead with the elephant herd and will be importing two males and three females by 2016.
 
The first female will be coming from Europe, possibly England between 2010-2011. The other four (two males, two females) will be coming from Thailand between 2012-2016.

They hope to breed from the three females they import.
 
I'll be very interested to see which female from europe goes to Auckland.

I'm sure that the import of the Thailand Elephants though will cause a uproar.
 
Connor91, may I ask who your contact is for this information? I think it's very off track!
 
dragon(ele)nerd said:
I'll be very interested to see which female from europe goes to Auckland.

I'm sure that the import of the Thailand Elephants though will cause a uproar.
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It should go alot easier than the Australian import. The breeding program has obviously been a success.

I wonder if they'll consider importing a few extra for me :)
 
If it goes ahead, stand by for the usual ignorant howls of outrage from the Animal Rights mob.
("Didn't you know that in Asia ALL elephants live in glorious freedom, and shouldn't be sent to the wicked zoos overseas, where they will be kept in chains and misery?")
 
Laloba said:
Connor91, may I ask who your contact is for this information? I think it's very off track!
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It would appear I have made a mistake,

I now have a thoery, a good theory, in 2004 Auckland Zoo stated it would take a male elephant if one was born at Perth Zoo, I'm not sure what's taking them so long but six years later there has been no births at Perth Zoo.

However, who does have a baby male elephant? Taronga Zoo.

How many baby male elephants do Taronga have? Two.

How many male elephants do Auckland want to hold by 2016? Two.

By 2016, Luk Chai and Pathi Harn will be 7 and 6 years old and going by Gung's standards, ready to reproduce with any females they bring over.
 
Gung became a father quite early I'd say. But yeah, going by what zoos in europe have done 5 and 6 is usually the cut of age for males to leave the zoo.
 
I doubt any Elephants would be sent out of Australia due to Import Export protocols.
 
ZYBen said:
I doubt any Elephants would be sent out of Australia due to Import Export protocols.
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I'm sure that an export to New Zealand would be feasible, since the zoos there participate in the same conservation management programs that Australian zoos do. The only barrier would be animal welfare grounds (which I'm sure Auckland would have no trouble with) and biosecurity, but I doubt that elephants pose a huge risk to native New Zealand fauna of any type.

It'd be nice if the biosecurity agencies in Australia and New Zealand could work on collaborative regulation for zoo animals. Would make the ZAA programs so much easier to manage!
 
Perhaps someone will know (Hix? Steve?) but are there import export protocols for elephants at this stage, I am aware we are talking years away. If Auckland are going go to the effort of importing elephant would it not be better for them to import from a country other than Australia so we get even more bloodlines?
 
Connor91 said:
The first female will be coming from Europe, possibly England between 2010-2011. The other four (two males, two females) will be coming from Thailand between 2012-2016.

They hope to breed from the three females they import.
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So were you just GUESSING here ??
 
ZYBen said:
Perhaps someone will know (Hix? Steve?) but are there import export protocols for elephants at this stage, I am aware we are talking years away. If Auckland are going go to the effort of importing elephant would it not be better for them to import from a country other than Australia so we get even more bloodlines?
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I don't know what the protocols are for *export*, though importation isn't currently possible.

Certainly more females from Thailand would be ideal. But we have at least two males that will need to be housed in the medium term.

The carrying capacity for males is the biggest challenge for the elephant program full-time. Importing more at this point would probably be unwise. Much better, in that we have easily a decade and possibly two, is to wait in the hope that freezing and transporting semen becomes easier.
 
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