I have been informed that the male lion passed away at the start of the week, leaving them with just the two females now.
The enclosure where the lions currently are is called "Kingdom of the Barbary Lion", and there is a huge focus on the lions being real Barbaries and Extinct in the Wild, so it seems like they might continue calling them this. I doubt they will continue keeping lions in the current enclosure however, since despite it being decent for the current geriatric inhabitants, it will be small for any active younger animals (and there doesn't seem to be any outdoor speration areas). Maybe some sort of smaller Panthera member or other medium/small carnivore will be kept there in the future.He was 'Quys' who came from Port Lympne back in the day when they promoted breeding of 'Barbary Lions.' I wonder if Belfast will continue with the 'Barbary' lineage now or just treat them as generic.
I agree. Particularly with the absence of tigers from the collection and the recent departures of sun bears and elephants I don’t think Belfast can really afford to let another charismatic species leave their collection permanently regardless of their taxonomy and/or theming of the exhibit!I agree with your comments Rohin regarding the size and practical element of keeping young breeding lions in the enclosure but I can’t see the Zoo after investing over £1m in the exhibit not continuing to keep lions in it unfortunately but I’d be happy to be proven wrong.
Male chimps - Tombe and chocolate-coloured Tumba - are moving to Belfast Zoo on 23rd January. This enables Colchester to bring a new breeding male. The new 27-year-old male Napoleon is coming from Bioparc Fuengirola, Spain and will arrive in the first year of the year: Tombe and Tumba Move Out - Colchester Zoological Society
As far as I know (what has been stated on here and put out by the zoo) Tombe and Tumba aren't known to be pure P.t. versus, and I'm pretty sure Tumba is castrated anyway. Though I suppose if purity isn't an issue Tumba could breed at Belfast.Would it be possible for these males to breed with the females at Belfast? I know Belfast have been without any males for a while.
As far as I know (what has been stated on here and put out by the zoo) Tombe and Tumba aren't known to be pure P.t. versus, and I'm pretty sure Tumba is castrated anyway. Though I suppose if purity isn't an issue Tumba could breed at Belfast.
Yes that's right, he's Pippin x Tekita, the same as Talia (though that might not be as certain as I thought). Tekita's mum was Tara, Tekita's dad was Pippin's brother, with both those males being descended from Coco at Twycross, hence Tumba's chocolate coloured coat. Later I might put up a list of the current 5 Colchester chimps, their birth dates and parents, as well as the same for 3 individuals who have passed away since the exhibit was redeveloped.Castration would explain why Tumba doesn't look particularly 'male' in the photos here. I believe he was actually the product of an incestuous mating (not deliberate) with both parents (ex Twycross) carrying the chocolate gene -though I may not have this story exactly right.
I know Belfast have been without any males for a while.
There’s been no mention of him for a long time.Wasn't there an adult male named Andy at Belfast? Has he passed away now?
@Al, my esteemed friend, I just have a lot of reservations (as you probably have ..) over this move. From a curatorial zoo management perspective ... it does not make sense. Personally, I do not think much good will come of it as you say ..., and it would be best if the zoo create a one species great ape exhibit in accordance with EAZA guidelines / criteria for both breeding group and bachelor troupe.Andy , Lewis and Lizzie have passed away over the last few years and to be honest I was surprised the zoo hasn’t acknowledged this as they were great zoo personalities.
I have mixed emotions about this move. In one sense I’m sure the introduction of the two males if successful will bring some added dynamics and enrichment to the all female group and the zoo does have some very experienced ape keepers who I’m sure will make the best decisions regarding a safe introductory process. However if it doesn’t go well the house itself isn’t really built for managing two separate groups. I imagine they will give access through some of the back bedroom and alternate access to outside paddock. They previously had to do this when the floor
was replaced a few years back.
My main concern is the direction the zoo is moving towards. I would have thought the future they should be converting the existing ape house for one of the ape species in the long term. We can see most zoos especially with the gorilla EEP insisting on space for two groups etc. and providing multiple indoor areas would allow for better management of the current gorilla group which seems to be struggling to successfully breed.
and providing multiple indoor areas would allow for better management of the current gorilla group which seems to be struggling to successfully breed.
Is the firstborn, now blackback male Baaku still living in the main group?