They may be nocturnal, but they are regularly visible at most zoos I've seen them at.
Best UK Binturong enclosure
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Noticed a request for details of Marwell's exhibit.
The binturongs are in the former fossa enclosure and a quick search showed there are photos of that in the gallary, for example, Fossa at Marwell Zoo, 24 March 2008 - ZooChat
The binturongs are in the former fossa enclosure and a quick search showed there are photos of that in the gallary, for example, Fossa at Marwell Zoo, 24 March 2008 - ZooChat
Drusillas enclosure:
Score update. Chester currently lead by 6 votes over Wild ZP and Birmingham WCP (who appear to have several nice enclosures) are 2 votes further behind. It would appear to be the fact that the Binturong's have been mixed with Sun Bears at Chester giving them more space than they would perhaps have otherwise which has allowed them to lead.
Yes, I do understand your point. It is something members may take into consideration when they vote. However, for me it is still a Binturong enclosure even if its primary purpose is to accommodate another species.
And if I was born in Germany I would probably speak German
random hypotheticals have no bearing on the actual situation.Also, are you seriously claiming that were it not for the Sun Bears also being present, Chester would give Palawan Binturong an exhibit approximately the same size as the Sand Lizard exhibit (which is about 5% the size of the Sun Bear exhibit)?
Of course, the fact that the Islands exhibit was specifically planned and designed to hold both species from the off has some bearing on the matter
and I am pretty damn sure that pipaluk is aware of this point, considering the fact I believe we were told as much on the Walk and Talk where I met him for the first time!
But it is an enclosure in the UK that holds binturongs, is it not? Does the fact that it also houses another species disqualify it?
Yes In my opinion because it is mainly a sun bear exhibit which is the reason for its size! Is it really great for the binturong? How many have they bred successfuly in this enclosure? And reared the sun bear snacks?
And if I was born in Germany I would probably speak German
Also, are you seriously claiming that were it not for the Sun Bears also being present, Chester would give Palawan Binturong an exhibit approximately the same size as the Sand Lizard exhibit (which is about 5% the size of the Sun Bear exhibit)?
Of course, the fact that the Islands exhibit was specifically planned and designed to hold both species from the off has some bearing on the matter
Sorry, it will always be the sun bear exhibit for me, let's see how many successful breedings of binturong there are, with young sharing the enclosure with sun bear before it is declared a great binturong exhibit!
Well, if "breeding successfully" is your criterion for what makes an exhibit worthy of a vote, and an exhibit being mixed and not devoted to the species is a negative point, you better change yours to either Hamerton, Linton or Edinburgh
as only these collections have bred the species out of those in the poll, and the collection you have currently voted for also has a mixed exhibit! I recommend you don't change to Edinburgh however, given the one and only breeding there happened in the old good exhibit rather than the current poor one.But yes, to answer your other questions here and elsewhere in the thread, the Chester exhibit *is* pretty good for the binturongs as they have full access to the trees and other climbing structures within the enclosure, and do make use of this access - I've seen them outside myself
no breeding has occurred to the best of my knowledge, but to be honest this doesn't surprise me given the fact the pair at the collection are elderly individuals (and hence possibly past breeding age) which came from Belfast.
I'm going to need photographic evidence for this one.
Only seen 3 Chester, Cotswold & Dudley.
went for Dudley as it as more man made climbing for the species than Cotswold and Chester is a shared exhibit.
went for Dudley as it as more man made climbing for the species than Cotswold and Chester is a shared exhibit.
I haven't been to Birmingham but that picture looks really nice - is it as good in the flesh? I'm torn between voting for that and Hamerton, so if anyone would like to try and sell either to me, please go ahead!
I don't object to Chester being included in the poll, but would rather one of the others won. I'm aware that Hamerton's enclosure also holds otters, but a lot of the features are clearly there for the sole benefit of the binturongs.
I don't object to Chester being included in the poll, but would rather one of the others won. I'm aware that Hamerton's enclosure also holds otters, but a lot of the features are clearly there for the sole benefit of the binturongs.
Andrew Swales
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I would say that the Binturongs (currently a single) housed with our SC Otters have been geriatric generic animals. Our breeding animals (both on-show and off-show) previously generics, and now our two breeding pairs of Javans, are held in conventional indoor/outdoor 'aviaries' as shown in the other pictures. We would never dream of risking them with otters, bears or any other spp.
Birmingham also mix theirs with short-clawed otters as well, just for the record. And WILD mix their binturong with palm civets and otters. Mine was a toss-up between BWCP and WILD but went with WILD in the end, possibly because it's the most recent one I've seen but it was really rather nice, plenty of climbing opportunities, and the binturong is taken out for daily presentations and seems very relaxed around the public.
Andrew Swales
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There can always be a difference between what you can (and have managed to) get away with - so far... and what a species really needs in its own right.
This series is about which enclosures look nice in the pictures, not about what is needed by the animals.
Sometimes these are the same, sometimes they are not...
This series is about which enclosures look nice in the pictures, not about what is needed by the animals.
Sometimes these are the same, sometimes they are not...