My list in this form would be:
Immersion: London
Depth - Edinburgh
Size - Edinburgh
Breeding - Edinburgh
Foliage - London
Viewing - London
Experience: London
Terrain - London
But again this emphasises the subjectivity of the whole thing.
By the way is this the Best UK enclosure thread with the most replies? It certainly feels like it
Oh, only from London zoo themselves, who are the only ones who can accurately measure the area of their pool.
and of course, they have a good enough track record with Gentoo and Kings that they hold the studbook for the two species. short of actually working out the average mass of each of the four species under discussion and calculating the "penguin mass" for each exhibit, you can't really make that generalisation. one would imagine that if this were an issue, it would have been addressed when the Edinburgh exhibit was comprehensively refurbished about 5 years ago! Certainly I have never heard of Edinburgh's penguins having health issues (including avian malaria, incidentally, which the cool wind coming in from the North Sea helps to ward against).
Agreeable except two points.I gave Experience to Edinburgh as the Penguin Parade is very unique.I would not count this if it was compulsory but as it is optional for the Penguins I believe that is the case.I would give breeding to London as they have an entire set of yards devoted to the chicks, nesting boxes and breeding females.I think that gives that particular win to London.Other than that I agree.My list in this form would be:
Immersion: London
Depth - Edinburgh
Size - Edinburgh
Breeding - Edinburgh
Foliage - London
Viewing - London
Experience: London
Terrain - London
But again this emphasises the subjectivity of the whole thing.
By the way is this the Best UK enclosure thread with the most replies? It certainly feels like it
What do you mean by ‘doesn’t have the greatest history’?They have been subject to avian malaria, but then again, all zoos have been.
No but it is unique.And by Antarctica I mean the surrounding areas to the North where you will find Humboldts.
you still haven't addressed my point about your claims regarding the waterfalls, springs and fountains making London's exhibit feel naturalistic to Antarctica, too.
Well, as noted AL has not actually provided any evidence of the Edinburgh group suffering from bumblefoot at all, merely supposition based on a different species at a different unnamed collection, and incorrect recollections about the exhibit substrate
They live in Peru and Chile meaning that technically this not true.As noted upthread, I believe that Edinburgh has actually avoided any outbreaks among their penguin colony..... and I am certain there are plenty of other collections for whom the same can be said.
You do realise that the southernmost range of Humboldt Penguin is further from the Antarctic Circle than London itself is from the Arctic Circle?
and to be honest, the fact you cite Peru as if it proves your point is baffling given the fact said country is located entirely within the tropics!
Sorry, but is this really the determining factor? There may be some crappy exhibits with 6-8 Penguins that would win by this criteria!Using the average weight of the penguin species in the respective enclosures, the pound for pound enclosure space is below, since TLD asked for it:
Total mass of penguins in Edinburgh: 886.2 kg
Total mass of penguins in London: 403.2 kg
Pound for pound ratio Edinburgh: 2.26
Pound for pound ratio London: 2.37
In conclusion, London has more space pound for pound (2.37 m2 for every kilo vs. 2.26 m2 for every kilo). Essentially, the point is, the difference is negligible