British Isles Cup Group B: ZSL vs Marwell

[CGSwans]

North America and Europe. I confess to knowing nothing about Marwell other than that John Knowles would have been very happy to remain “a chicken man” his entire career. I know he would have been happy to stay a chicken man because he says so in his book about a dozen times, which does make me wonder why he opened a zoo.

Anyway, let’s get on with it. Remember ‘ZSL’ refers to both London and Whipsnade.

 

[britishzoofan]

Whipsnade

European Brown Bear enclosure

Wolverine exhibit

Eurasian Lynx enclosure

Wild Boar enclosure

European Bison enclosure

Reindeer Paddock

Californian Sea Lion outdoors

Californian Sea Lion indoors

 

[TNT]

Now this is an interesting one... I'll have to come back later to make some comments.

 

[pipaluk]

I've been trying to think what Marwell actually has in this category and can't find anything! I don't see how Marwell can even get a point!

 

[britishzoofan]

I've been trying to think what Marwell actually has in this category and can't find anything! I don't see how Marwell can even get a point!

From a quick look at the website as I've never visited: Greater Flamingo, Great Grey Owl, Gila monster. There may be more. However, it appears like a simple 3-0 due to Whipsnade's excellence in this category.

 

[TNT]

I've been trying to think what Marwell actually has in this category and can't find anything! I don't see how Marwell can even get a point!

From a quick look at the website as I've never visited: Greater Flamingo, Great Grey Owl, Gila monster. There may be more. However, it appears like a simple 3-0 due to Whipsnade's excellence in this category.

Following on from the points above, it's a pretty simple 3-0 to Whipsnade, with no bonus point. I hadn't realised how much Marwell was lacking in this category.

 

[TNT]

@TeaLovingDave I'm surprised by your 2-1 vote? If you have the time, it would be great to hear why!

 

[britishzoofan]

Marwell

Greater Flamingo enclosure

 

[TeaLovingDave]

I'm surprised by your 2-1 vote? If you have the time, it would be great to hear why!

Basically because:

I hadn't realised how much Marwell was lacking in this category.

For some reason I recalled them having a *bit* more than has been indicated but yes, it's pretty clearly a straight 3-0 to ZSL,

 

[Dylan]

London Zoo also has some things in this category. I saw [Revee's muntjac], [Mandarin duck], Greater flamingo, great white pelican, [Waldrapp], little egret, western diamondback rattlesnake, sidewinder, gila monster, Sardinian brook salamander and three species of midwife toads. [] species I'm unsure if they count.

So slam-dump to ZSL.

 

[amur leopard]

OK, here are the full species list so that everyone can realise just how lacking Marwell are in this category...

ZSL:
Black tailed prairie dog
California sea lion
Central European wild boar
Common fallow deer
European bison
European brown bear
European wolverine
Northern lynx
Plains buffalo

American flamingo
Bar-headed goose
Barnacle goose
Burrowing owl
Emperor goose
Eurasian great grey owl
Eurasian North hawk-owl
Eurasian oystercatcher
European eider
European kestrel
European white stork
Great white pelican
Harris' hawk
Hooded merganser
Lanner falcon
Marbled teal
Snowy owl
Ural owl
Black-necked stilt
Common barn owl
Common black kite
Common buzzard
Eurasian tawny-owl
European eagle-owl
Greater flamingo
Little egret
Socorro dove
Western cattle egret

Corn snake
Rio Fuerte beaded lizard
European legless lizard
European pond turtle
Gila monster
Western diamondback rattlesnake

Marwell:
Black-winged stilt
Eurasian great grey owl
Greater flamingo
Little egret

Gila monster
Rio Fuerte beaded lizard

Overall, 43-6
Mammals, 9-0
Birds, 28-4
Reptiles, 6-2
Amphibians I might do later.

 

[pipaluk]

Absolute walkover clearly! Whipsnade would beat any non specialist collection in the UK in this category I think including Chester

 

[TeaLovingDave]

Whipsnade would beat any non specialist collection in the UK in this category I think including Chester

I reckon RZSS would beat ZSL on this one actually!

 

[pipaluk]

I reckon RZSS would beat ZSL on this one actually!

But I would class Highland Wildlife Park as a specialist collection surely?

 

[TNT]

But I would class Highland Wildlife Park as a specialist collection surely?

I'd have to agree there - I guess you could call it a "Eurasian" specialist?

 

[Jungle Man]

Without Hesitation the winner here is ZSL,that is why I will vote 3-0 in favor of ZSL.

 

[TeaLovingDave]

But I would class Highland Wildlife Park as a specialist collection surely?

I'd have to agree there - I guess you could call it a "Eurasian" specialist?

I would tend to argue that having species from throughout the Northern Hemisphere both Palearctic and Holarctic (plus at least one from below the Equator) makes it a bit too broad to dismiss as a mere specialist it's nowhere as narrow a collection as, say, Wildwood or BWC.

 

[pipaluk]

I would tend to argue that having species from throughout the Northern Hemisphere both Palearctic and Holarctic (plus at least one from below the Equator) makes it a bit too broad to dismiss as a mere specialist it's nowhere as narrow a collection as, say, Wildwood or BWC.

Nit picking I would suggest! How many Australian, African, tropical Asian, South American, Madagascar species do HWP hold?

 

[CGSwans]

Guys, the match is ZSL and Marwell. Let’s save London vs Scotland for a potential final round match-up.

 

[tigris115]

ooc, is there something like a tier list or ranking for the various zoos of the UK?