Cairns Wildlife Safari Reserve Cairns/Tipperary Animals

Jeez what a waste!

Exotic ungulates are so rare and hard -to -get in this country that you would think they'd be snapped up by the big zoos if ever they became available.

Instead they seem to muck around - probably don't want to spend the money.
 
Jarkari said:
The current owner of the tipperary animals says he is interested in swapping his animals for others to increase diversity. his animals ewre primarily shipped from england... would they be related to any of our current population and would aussie zoos be at all interested in swapping with him.
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Call me cynical (I've been called much worse :)), but what planet does this guy think he's from?? He runs a commercial hunting ranch, and thinks he can charge enormous amounts of money if any of the zoos want to buy some of his animals (of course, they would like some of them, but not by paying a hunter through the nose for them). But diddums.... none of the big zoos will swap animals with him when it suits him. I think those nasty big zoos are being very mean :rolleyes:

The place is not an ARAZPA member as far as I know, and looking at their rules for membership, not ever likely to be. But he wants the zoos to give up some of their animals, to a non-ARAZPA member, for his own personal financial gain?? And he wonders why they won't play ball??

The guy runs a hunting ranch for God's sake Mary River Australian Safaris (and a paticularly unapealling site, in so many ways). Now let me see - imagine the uproar from the public, and most likely, from many members of this forum, if Australasian zoos started swapping animals with a game hunter????
 
Yes, an interesting but distasteful site. Why don't these Great White Hunter types just go and smash a few windows, and get rid of their destructive tendencies that way?

What ZooPro says is true; the public (you and me) would not quietly tolerate accredited zoos supplying animals to this guy, by either sale, gift or exchange, for hunting purposes.

HOWEVER; I don't see what the problem is with enquiring what he'd be prepared to sell to zoos and for how much. Unless his prices were totally unreasonable, it would be a whole lot easier than importation at the present time.

If his animals do have fresh genetic material compared to what we've already got, I'd be prepared to do a deal with the Devil hisself to get 'em!
 
bah.... i was only ever really interested in the hippos anyway and they are at mareeba.

actually now i think about it, how many nilgai and lechwe does he have?

maybe i'll haveto steal them too, but only if it doesn't compromise the GHH07 (that stands for great hippo heist)
 
why dont you macho pricks go **** a few pigs on the bar! zoopro as usual has made another incredibly important point-public reaction to zoos dealing with hunting ranches. think san diego zoo, 1990s, offloading surplus deer and ungulates to hunting ranches. bad, bad public reaction, and as zoos are essentially a public good, funded by tax payers they MUST remain both relevent to the peoples needs but also respond to their values.
i can rationalise pretty much everything zoos do.....euthenasia, etc, but draw the line at associating with game hunters. even if it costs us a few nilgai (who cares)
 
the man who owns the animals at mary river said he would rather swap then sell his animals and as far as I can tell he does not hunt these particular animals, I'll look into it. Saying that I do not support Hunting ranches and do agree with you zoopro
 
Going off on a tangent here..........
A question for zoo professionals (ZooPro? Steve Robinson? Anyone?)
How do zoos/animal parks notify others that they have surplus animals that they want to unload? Individual approach? Email to everyone? I suppose if they are ARAZPA zoos then through the website, but what about non-member zoos?(Cairns, for instance.)
 
Reputable zoos try not to produce surplus animals to start with. Some zoos still occasionally produce surplus lists which are distributed to those institutions that the particular zoo is happy to deal with. ARAZPA member institutions use an annual Census and Plan to document what they have, and what they want, and they use this to notify each other of animals they may have available, or they are looking for.
 
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