Carnivores in mixed exhibits
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@animalmapping
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Yes cause the cheetahs can’t kill the zebras, rhinos or elands. And theses herbivores won’t kill the cheetah ether, the cheetah isn’t faster and when having a tree or other shelter place it actually is an enriching combination who stimulates natural behavior
It benefits them actually cheetahs need a lit orb stimulation, in the wild they live in constant fear that’s why bored situations in captivity stress them out, large herbivores keep them sharp and stimulated.
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It isn't that common certainly; it has only been done in 3 zoos and only 2 still do it.
Definitely not as common as the savanna mix: zebra, giraffe, rhino, lots of other large antelopes..
Sharp, stimulated, stressed at the possibility of getting their skull crushed by a zebra/eland kick or a rhino charge....how.....enriching?
Andrew Swales
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There has been some rubbish published on this forum in the past, but this is pretty much up there...
@animalmapping
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* is instead of isnt
@animalmapping
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That doesn’t happen since cheetahs are faster and have save spaces when they rest, rhinos really are sweet misunderstood animals and the cheetah stays out of the way of the zebras and elands. Tons of zoos do it in Germany, Austria etc and no conflicts happen
This is really an exaggeration...
Interesting....it’s not like all it would take for a cheetah to get its head kicked in would be for it to make a mistake whilst running and for a zebra to kick out at just the right moment or anything...
@Andrew Swales and @Chlidonias are right, the mix with zebra you cite is far from common (to the point it caused a lot of forum members shock upon hearing up-thread about an Asian zoo mixing cheetah and zebra), I have never heard of eland being mixed and rhinos, though being mixed more frequently with cheetahs than the other two ungulates you mention, are far from ‘sweet’ and ‘misunderstood’. I can tell you have never been in the same space as a rhino before (that is, without bars or the safety of a car door/window between you and the animal) as I can guarantee you, there is a reason why rhinos are category one animals and a reason why so few zoos mix them with smaller, less robust animals such as cheetah.
I don't think they haver ever actually tried to mix the Patas with the Cheetahs....
@animalmapping
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I have, white rhinos are very calm animals and I actually have worked with wild white rhinos and walked along them. As long keeping about 10 meters distance they are very relaxed.
@animalmapping
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I have literally walked with them... wild ones...
So, since you seem to be an expert on cheetah husbandry, would you care to list all of the zoos in Germany that use the mix? Might be useful for us “lesser beings” to know where you’re talking about.
Andrew Swales
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Yes, I was just musing about the to-and-fro of the internet. Just as one expert appears to be lost (albeit temporarily), another one pops up...
@animalmapping
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Don’t view you as lesser beings.
Here are all zoos combining or have combined white rhinos and cheetahs:
Institution(s): Cleveland Metroparks Zoo (Ohio, United States of America), Parc Safari (Quebec, Canada), Borås Djurpark (Sweden), Zoo & Aquazoo Schmiding (Krenglbach, Austria), Attica Zoological Park (Athens, Greece), Everland - Zootopia (Jongin, South Korea)
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Here are all zoos combining or have combined cheetahs and black rhinos:
Institution(s): Zoo Leipzig (Germany), Port Lympne Wild Animal Park (United Kingdom)
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Zoos that keep or kept cheetahs and zebras:
Institution(s): African Safari (Oita, Japan)
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Zoos that keep or kept cheetahs and Pygmy hippos
Institution(s): Safari World (Bangkok, Thailand)
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Zoos that kept or keep cheetahs, giraffes, elands and plain zebras all together:
Institution(s): Zoorasia – Yokohama Zoological Gardens (Japan)
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And zoos who kept or keep cheetahs, Galapagos tortoise and African spurred tortoise all together are:
Institution(s): Houston Zoo (Texas, United States of America)
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So one zoo in Germany....and only two zoos mixing with zebras etc. So not “loads”.
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The Houston zoo has two prevosts squirrels in with the asian small clawed otters.
How many cheetahs in a tree have you seen lately?
I myself have only seen one EVER - and it was a cub.
Judging by your post elsewhere in the thread, "tons" is a synonym for "one in Germany and none in Austria"
@animalmapping
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How many cheetahs in a tree have you seen lately?
I myself have only seen one EVER - and it was a cub.
Judging by your post elsewhere in the thread, "tons" is a synonym for "one in Germany and none in Austria"
There is also one in austria and i ment tons of zoos have those combinations and i gave example the two in Austria and Germany. And it’s true cheetahs cubs are better climbers since they have sharper nails but the adults also can do it and in a zoo you can make Ann easy tree to climb with a platform they can rest on, rhinos can climb at all so it has not to be that hard, can send you a photo of an example
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