Hexaprotodon
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Looking at the photo gallery I have to say that it looks quite poor there really. I'm amazed that they are keeping spider monkeys in such a small enclosure, nevermind them having to share it with a mandrill!
Wales Ape & Monkey Sanctuary Cefn-yr-Erw Primate Sanctuary
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The worst thing is the whole site looks very open and windswept- not very congenial for tropical Primates. I think its one Spider monkey living with the Mandrill but this cage does look extremely basic. The one for Ruffed Lemurs looks much better but too small. It looks like the big cage attatched to the barn might be for chimpanzees?
zoogiraffe
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True but at least this places admits its just a rescue centre,un-like Monkeyworld which is trying not be a zoo but still breeds hybrid Woolly Monkeys and Bornean Orangs!shame if you commpare with how well monkey world has done
Idon't think that is 100% correct, it would certainly not be the best reason for breeding any of these Primates, considering that Primate Welfare is supposed to be their main concern.
MonkeyWorld do seem torn between being anti-zoo and acting like a zoo- since they a. keep animals in captivity. b. breed from some of them. & c. exhibit them to a paying public. What's so different from the major features of any other 'zoo'.
zoogiraffe
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Nearly got thrown out for saying to the late Jim Cronin that Monkeyworld was a zoo in every thing but name.
I've just had a look at the photos of Cefn-Yr-Erw. Those cages are appalling small.
The louder the criticisms, the less the difference, it seems.
I think he just wanted to establish his own different 'identity' for the place. In much the same way old Aspinall was always very scathing about 'ordinary' and establishment zoos- yet Aspinalls' made just as many mistakes, they were just a different type.
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the one for Ruffed Lemurs certainly is. Do they have to have a license to keep these wild animals and if so who would make the inspections?
Well if it's open to the public (for more then seven days a year) then they must be under the zoo licencing regulations. (Unless they somehow loophole it via the bed and breakfast)
Isn't there usually someone from the local enviroment office on the inspection panel, along with the national "experts." So it might be worth contacting the local council if you want to complain, or defra.
Unfortunately it seems very difficult for a place, any place to lose its licence. Not that I'm saying that this place should - I've never been there so cannot comment. I just think regulations need tightening in general.
Isn't there usually someone from the local enviroment office on the inspection panel, along with the national "experts." So it might be worth contacting the local council if you want to complain, or defra.
Unfortunately it seems very difficult for a place, any place to lose its licence. Not that I'm saying that this place should - I've never been there so cannot comment. I just think regulations need tightening in general.
i feel very stuck in this conversation, while i support what the "zoo/sanctuary" is doing i do however object to thier non-zoo, but still breeding and exhibiting animals approach!
It sounds sad but this could be the only way to sort this collection out, maybe they could sort out somekind of government funding? i think they really care for thier animals they just dont have the budget to cater thier needs
This has been mentioned on another thread. The sanctuary must abide by the zoo licensing regulations as they are open to the public throughout the year. They would not be able to get around the licence due to the animals they house, which are DWA licence. If the inspectors felt that the park did not meet all the regulations then it would be under pressure to sort them out until the next inspection (assuming not breaking cruelty laws). The local council could put pressure on the park too. Many examples in the UK were parks have not been up to scratch, but continued until closed or improved. Dartmoor and Glasgow are good examples of both.
taun
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Can you tell us your source for this information or maybe a link you have seen?
Just a little advice here Tigerlemurguy, take anything you read on Wikipedia with a pinch of salt and try to find a proper source. Due to the content being user-added, lots of false information is on there.
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