CGSwans flies north for the winter

I’ve often been asked, by zoo nerds and well-adjusted people alike, to explain what kind of zoo I like. It’s a difficult question, and the best, least elusive answer I have is that I like a zoo that knows what it’s trying to do and does it well. Some of the zoos I’ve loved most include Antwerp, Zurich, Dubbo, San Diego, Halls Gap and the now-lost Melbourne of 20 years ago. Try to find a common thread among those zoos, if you can. Then try for one between the Sumida, Osaka and Valencia aquaria too.

What they have in common, for me, is that they are well-realised, whatever it is they are trying to be. I would not want many zoos to try to be what Hanover is trying to be. It’s trying to be an easy half-day out for Hanoverian families. No more, no less. And there are some elements that I found problematic. But on the whole, I think Hanover is very good at being what Hanover seeks to be.

I wouldn’t want every zoo – or even many zoos – to try to be what Hanover tries to be. But I don’t mind that Hanover has. It’s not Zurich or Vienna or Prague, but it does a pretty good job of being Hanover. It’s a zoo that I’d very happily take my infant niece and nephew to, let them revel in the excess of the place and enjoy seeing all the big animals they might know from their picture books in one place. The talapoins and tamanduas can wait.

One of the reasons why this thread is so wonderful is the unpredictable nature of your reviews. I could have guessed that you would have loved Zurich, Vienna and Prague as the majority of zoo nerds are enchanted by those 3 behemoths. I would never have predicted that you would take a fairly strong dislike to Hamburg and then in your next review you would love Hanover. Although it seems to me that your reasoning is sound, as you like zoos that know what they are doing and do it well. Maybe you like consistent themes and an overall high quality of exhibits spread throughout a zoo. Whatever the case, it makes for great reading and so please continue on your safe travels!

On a side note, are there some mornings when you really regret staying in hostels? Your great sleeps are occasionally offset by awful ones that taint your day as you are likely tired for hours. Also, is there a significant cost savings to public transportation in comparison to renting a car for certain portions of the journey? I was emailing with a couple of American friends and they both just rent vehicles on European zoo trips as they find that it eliminates a lot of time waiting at bus stops or train stations and they can come and go whenever they like and carry extra luggage with them. Maybe that is a cultural idea, as in North America public transportation outside of the mega-cities is almost unheard of and extremely time-consuming. I've always pictured myself just renting a vehicle (and probably sleeping in it!:)) if I ever make a big European zoo trip in the distant future.
 
I don't drive, so making the calculation was pointless. However, I would counsel against it. With careful planning I would be absolutely stunned if you couldn't do it cheaper, and often faster, by train. It's not just the cost of the hire car, but of petrol, of road tolls and of parking. And you would preclude yourself from staying in hostels, which virtually never have parking available.

No, I don't regret hostels at all. I love my occasional nights to myself, planned or otherwise, but they are both necessary - if I were booking hotels everywhere I'd be broke and back home long ago - and my preference. I've had dorm and cabin mates from 43 countries, made some great friendships and had a much richer experience than if I'd chosen to avoid them. It's worth every bad night's sleep I've had.
 
I was emailing with a couple of American friends and they both just rent vehicles on European zoo trips as they find that it eliminates a lot of time waiting at bus stops or train stations and they can come and go whenever they like and carry extra luggage with them. Maybe that is a cultural idea, as in North America public transportation outside of the mega-cities is almost unheard of and extremely time-consuming. I've always pictured myself just renting a vehicle (and probably sleeping in it!:)) if I ever make a big European zoo trip in the distant future.

That might well be a cultural thing. You hardly need a car in most parts of central Europe, it would be quite a lot of hassle for many city zoos and public transport is frequent with normally 1-4 connections per hour for trains. The UK and some parts of France are however a different story, some zoos there are almost impossible by public transport.
 
The only argument for it, I think, would be to be able to cover multiple collections in a day. But I'd recommend not doing that on a first trip to Europe, either. Any tour that focused on central and north-western Europe would potentially take in such iconic cities as Berlin, Prague, Vienna, Munich and Amsterdam. Yes, you possibly could cover their zoos and some nearby drive through safari park or something as well, but I guarantee they won't make the same impression as simply walking around those cities, even if only for a couple of hours.
 
I guess it's a tall order, just interested to know if any struck you as especially appealing. If not that's fine, it's difficult to compare places with different attributes but some times we develop a particular affection for a place.
 
But on the whole, I think Hanover is very good at being what Hanover seeks to be.

Agreed; the problems arise when you really don't like what Hannover seeks to be :p

To say Hanover goes in for theming is to say Winnie the Pooh doesn’t mind hunny, and it’s laid on thicker than hunny at that.

the theming was overwhelming to the point of distraction: everywhere you look there’s a broken down Landcruiser, a crane, oil barrels, a diver, a crashed plane, an abandoned gold mine.

Given the fact that I really dislike theming for the sake of theming, especially when it is done in a tacky and gratuitous style, it is perhaps inevitable that I wasn't going to enjoy Hannover all that much :p especially when the actual exhibit quality beyond the theming was (barring most of the Yukon, the farmyard exhibit and the now-demolished shorebird walkthrough) pretty poor.
 
Agreed; the problems arise when you really don't like what Hannover seeks to be :p

Given the fact that I really dislike theming for the sake of theming, especially when it is done in a tacky and gratuitous style, it is perhaps inevitable that I wasn't going to enjoy Hannover all that much :p especially when the actual exhibit quality beyond the theming was (barring most of the Yukon, the farmyard exhibit and the now-demolished shorebird walkthrough) pretty poor.

I concede I might have papered over the cracks in many of the exhibits, though I think for hoofstock they really are quite good. The chimp one could easily be improved with more climbing opportunities. Gorillas and especially orangs are inadequate. Big cats are serviceable.

I doubt I shall visit Gelsenkirchen. I am diabetic, after all, and I've already over-indulged in the zoological equivalent of frosted sugar at Hanover. But the most important thing is that I enjoyed my afternoon.
 
But the most important thing is that I enjoyed my afternoon.

Oh, indeed :) I may not have particularly *liked* Hannover, with the exception of the exhibits already noted, but I nonetheless enjoyed my visit there. After all, it is always interesting and satisfying to see a new collection, especially one which splits opinions as much as Hannover does.

Hell, I have even managed to get a *kind* of enjoyment out of my two visits to South Lakes, even if it was on a morbid "car crash" level.
 
Zoo #41: Weltvogelpark Walsrode, 31/7/2017

My dorm mate had asked what brought me to Hanover.

"I'm going to a bird park. It's pretty famous."

... "Oh, right." I don't think my interlocutor was wholly convinced. "And what else?"

No, that's pretty much it.

I'd like to start off by expressing my thanks to whoever it was that picked passerines as the Zoochat Challenge for this year, which will almost certainly be the only one in which I am ever competitive. It has drawn my attention towards birds that I would usually take very little notice of as I pursue my parrots and hornbills.

Now the roles are reversed. It's the birds that I once didn't bother looking for in the flight aviary that have me lingering about, holding out hope for a sudden flash of wings through the canopy. I'll never look down my nose at a laughing-thrush again.

I knew Walsrode was going to be central to my hopes of a once-off victory. After Hamburg I was sitting on 158, 24 behind Vision. ZTL had, after careful scrutiny, informed me that there were up to 54 species I didn't yet have that were known to be present. I knew I'd miss many but hoped to get perhaps 30, and take a modest lead.

I have learned, over the course of this now than two-thirds over ( :( ) journey, that I am not quite the fully fledged zoo nerd. I adore zoos, and I still have plenty more to go. But for the most part I value a good night's sleep over getting to a zoo first thing in the morning, and doubly so after having endured Hamburg. So I decided against setting an alarm, put my $80 earplugs to good use and woke up comfortably in time to make the 9:51 train out to Walsrode. It would connect with the local bus and deposit me at the park around 11. If eight hours wasn't enough for a complete experience of Walsrode (and my 30 passerines) then so be it.

Deutsche Bahn is famous for its reliability and punctuality, so I guess it was pre-ordained that it would run late and I would miss the bus by one minute. There was nothing else for it but to walk the couple of kilometres, which pushed my arrival back to about 11:30, but I got a pleasant stroll through a Grimm Brothers-esque forestscape for my troubles. And I still had seven hours at the park before leaving slightly before closing time: my knee was getting grumpy and I also had to walk back to the station. It was a long day.

I collected an English map from the ticket desk, but to be honest I might have been better off without it: the wretched thing was incomplete, which I only discovered after trying and failing to locate the birds-of-paradise (I had assumed they'd be in the 'paradise hall', but that proved too logical), as well as the kiwi house. Neither were shown, and I almost missed the row of aviaries behind the parrot aviaries too. The reason for the omissions escapes me, but they were very annoying.

Anyway, I began in a paradise hall that didn't have birds of paradise, but plenty of other passerines: I was into double figures within 20 minutes, before the pace started to slow a lot. I've been lukewarm on 'bird houses' in Northern Hemisphere zoos. I'm used to outdoor aviaries in Australia, and I do think they are preferable, both as exhibits and as habitats. I don't enjoy seeing birds behind glass. Not an issue at Walsrode though; why don't more zoos keep more of their indoor birds in wire aviaries?

The big aviaries here - the flight one with, who'd have imagined, a variety of wading birds - and the two indoor walk-throughs are nice, but it's the dozens of planted outdoor exhibits that set it apart.

To be honest it's not a sense I had of Walsrode from the days, before I started planning this trip, when I would look through the gallery. Back then I was much more attracted to Jurong, which was not only much closer, and hence more plausibly reachable, but also seemingly had the grander, more ambitious exhibits. That's probably true, but Walsrode's smaller habitat aviaries have it covered, I think. So it depends what you like most, I guess.

And I like Walsrode very, very much. The sheer number of small and medium-sized aviaries gives it greater depth than Jurong, and while I wasn't rushed for time - I was able comfortably to circle back to favourite parts a couple of times - I can see how more patient people sometimes need to allocate two days to this place.

But it's not perfect. The penguin exhibit shows its age and is sub-par. I know penguins are probably the most expensive species to provide a good, enriched habitat for, but I'd like to see more than a relatively shallow and stagnant pool. It's a difficult one: it might be too costly to provide a good exhibit, but whereas a traditional zoo going out of penguins would simply lack a supporting cast member, for a bird park it'd be like going without giraffes.

The parrots (60 species!!!) were, as ever, unimaginatively displayed. I was talking about the aviaries here - empty branches, sand substrate, sizes ranging from generous to far too small - with a friend who keeps and trains cockatoos. He made the point that the destructive behaviours parrots are famous for are mostly because of boredom: create enriched enough environments and diets and they won't wreck your trees, and you can keep them in planted aviaries.

Even if that much is beyond Walsrode (and it shouldn't be: bird keeping is literally their core business), there's a lot they could do with the parrot aviaries. Plant bamboo to create some greenery that will grow fast enough to survive the onslaught. Plant creepers on at least some of the aviary floor: there are some that parrots find distasteful, so use those.

But I have a better idea for some of the biggest, most destructive species anyway. I wouldn't mind seeing the flight aviary - the biggest one I've seen in Europe, I think - halved, and turning over the second half to the big parrot species; the macaws, the cockatoos, the amazons and perhaps even the keas, subject to individual birds' behaviour, of course. I've never seen a big, mixed-parrot flight aviary and it's my avian holy grail. Walsrode could make it work.

But enough about what didn't please me, because this post will start to be mistaken as being critical. It's not, on the whole. I mean, how could I? I didn't see the kiwi - my only good viewing of this species was in a wholly inadequate exhibit in Osaka, alas - but I saw three birds-of-paradise species, three hummingbirds, two cocks-of-the-rocks, four couas, shoebill, kagu, horned parrot, Pesquet's parrot, vasa parrot, hawk-headed parrot, a tawny eagle and that's just the ones I knew were rare in captivity. I've seen most before, here or there (I'd never heard of the couas, though), but all in one place? There's only two places in the world with the desire - the interest - to do that. Both are precious.

And, to my delight, it seems many locals feel the same way. I sort of expect bird parks to be a bit of a stuffy, niche attraction - and my dorm mate in Hanover clearly agreed - but despite being a weekday there were hundreds of people there. Many were young couples or groups of young people.

Being so far from home, there's always a slight feeling of regret as I leave a zoo. I certainly hope - even plan - to return to Europe, but there are many places on this trip that I will only ever visit once. I dearly hope Walsrode isn't one.
 
Go to Doue La Fontaine in France and you have one.

Didn't make the cut this time, then.

Four individuals you mean, as there are only 3 coua species around in European zoos ;)

Fair enough. I had them on a list of 'I wonder if these are passerine' species, which had four species on it, but I've since deleted it and one of them must have been something else. I forget.
 
Fair enough. I had them on a list of 'I wonder if these are passerine' species, which had four species on it, but I've since deleted it and one of them must have been something else. I forget.

Maybe the cuckoo roller ;) Which also looks strange and is from Madagascar...
 
Deutsche Bahn is famous for its reliability and punctuality,
Hahahaha...no. That used to be the case 30 years ago. For more reliable train schedules, Switzerland is the place to go.

And, to my delight, it seems many locals feel the same way. I sort of expect bird parks to be a bit of a stuffy, niche attraction - and my dorm mate in Hanover clearly agreed - but despite being a weekday there were hundreds of people there. Many were young couples or groups of young people.
Given that the bird park was close to being shut down due to a lack of visitors just a few years ago, this is a good sign.
 
Deutsche Bahn is famous for its reliability and punctuality, so I guess it was pre-ordained that it would run late and I would miss the bus by one minute.

Hahahaha...no. That used to be the case 30 years ago. For more reliable train schedules, Switzerland is the place to go.

Still much more reliable, and much more pleasant, than any of the trains one can get in the United Kingdom ;) :p

I collected an English map from the ticket desk, but to be honest I might have been better off without it: the wretched thing was incomplete, which I only discovered after trying and failing to locate the birds-of-paradise (I had assumed they'd be in the 'paradise hall', but that proved too logical), as well as the kiwi house. Neither were shown, and I almost missed the row of aviaries behind the parrot aviaries too. The reason for the omissions escapes me, but they were very annoying.

Yeah, the English map is rather more out-of-date than is the German map, which *does* mark both the Bird-of-Paradise complex and Kiwi House......
 
Hahahaha...no. That used to be the case 30 years ago. For more reliable train schedules, Switzerland is the place to go.

It is still a hell of a lot better than the French, just try to spend some time with them and you appreciate DB again ;)
 
Hahahaha...no. That used to be the case 30 years ago. For more reliable train schedules, Switzerland is the place to go.

Still much more reliable, and much more pleasant, than any of the trains one can get in the United Kingdom ;) :p

I've been using DB a lot lately, and the frequency of delays / standards of customer service were scarcely better than in the UK. Except Southern Rail, of course, who are exceptionally appalling.
 
We could off course also discuss the facts :p, here is a graph plotting punctuality (y-axis) against how full the network is (x-axis)

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Germany (Duitsland) is in the middle and performs better than England for example. Switzerland is in a league of it's own naturally ;)
 
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