Chlidonias Goes To Asia, part three: 2013-2014

that's probably a pretty good summary. There were no animal photo props when I was there though. Did you do the tour through the Dark Cave?

Ah the irony of a man trying to steal money from me with his right hand, while selling me a religious icon with his left. :D I'm surprised he didn't hit you up for some cash for telling you about the tour times. :D

Nah, we were on a bigger tour to begin with, so no Dark Caves for us. We went with one of those tour companies that pick you up from your hotel (they were an hour late), then take you to 50 local factories to get you to buy stuff you neither need nor want (I did enjoy the tour of the Selangor Pewter Factory though), before eventually taking you to the caves.

Check out the animal props here: https://www.google.com.au/search?q=...s_sm=122&espv=210&q=batu+caves+snake&tbm=isch
I love the pic with the baby and the snake. :D
 
I had a very good day yesterday at Kuala Selangor. This is a little town about two hours out of Kuala Lumpur, and my reason for going there is the mangrove forest nature reserve, Taman Alam. There are a few mammals there (including smooth-coated otters which you have to be lucky to see) and lots of birds. I had last been there in 2006 and then I stayed at the town, but this time was just a day-trip. I had a look on Wikitravel for where the bus leaves from Kuala Lumpur and the directions on there were dead accurate. Basically you go to the Medan Pasar bus stop just near the Masjid Jamek LRT station and catch the number 141. Even the fare was correct on Wikitravel (7.30 Ringgit). The first bus is at 6.30am apparently but I caught the 7am bus and got to the Kuala Selangor bus terminal at about 8.45am. Wikitravel says the buses run every half a hour but on the return trip I was waiting for over an hour and a half for a bus, so I don't know. I thought the last time I was here I had stayed in a hotel just round the corner from the terminal and walked to the nature reserve in the mornings (about a kilometre or two away) but I couldn't see any hotels and I didn't remember the lay-out. I asked a few people and they all said I needed to take a taxi. So eventually I did to save time, and it cost 8 Ringgit. At the turn-off from the highway to the nature reserve there is a little cluster of hotels and restaurants, and as soon as I saw those I remembered what had happened in 2006. I had arrived at the bus terminal after dark and asked around for a hotel, and everyone kept pointing me in the same direction. I ended up walking along the edge of the highway in the dark with all my gear until I reached this point, which turned out to be quite handy because it was just outside the gates (there's just a short road, maybe 500 metres between the highway and gate). Alternatively you can stay inside the park itself for as little as 30 Ringgit, a choice which would obviously give you more scope for wildlife watching. The reserve is open 9am to 6pm, but the otters are most likely to be seen at dawn and dusk as they pass through, and if you are staying inside the park you could also go spot-lighting; I know there are leopard cats there, and I think there are probably pangolins as well.

So, I got to the reserve at about 9.20am, just when they were opening up the ticket counter so good timing really. I stayed until noon, then went out for lunch, and came back in for a few hours before heading off to look for silvered leaf monkeys. The reserve is on the edge of the Selangor River and the Malacca Strait but you can't actually see either of them because of the mangroves. From the entrance there's a track leading to a circular raised dirt track, in the middle of which is a man-made brackish lagoon. There's a couple of watch-towers, and also a raised walkway through mangrove forest which is in bad shape. The sections of wooden railings have mostly collapsed and fallen off, but luckily the walkway itself is made of concrete so will last a long time. I wasn't expecting to see much in the way of new birds here, but my target was milky stork which have been reintroduced here from birds bred at Zoo Negara in Kuala Lumpur. In 2006 there was a huge pre-release aviary (still there now, but derelict) and although I saw a couple of free birds I think, I couldn't count them because they'd only just been released. Now there is a proper wild breeding population so I can count them!

It wasn't long before I saw some milky storks, with a flock of seventeen flying in circles in the sky seen from the first watch-tower. I saw a few others in flight later on and also a lesser adjutant in flight. Lots of other birds all through the forest here as well, including a female koel, ashy tailorbird, ruby-cheeked sunbird and mangrove whistler. There were some water monitors around too naturally, and quite a few many-lined sun skinks.

I was keeping my eyes open for smooth-coated otters, although there wasn't much hope outside of very early morning/late afternoon. In 2006 as I was coming into the park for the first time there was a lady coming out who had just seen a whole family party which was a bit annoying when I ended up not seeing any! I have never seen any species of otter wild before, but I was hoping to see the smooth-coated otters which live at Sungei Buloh in Singapore whenever I get down there, and I'm hoping to still get to Langkawi at some point for small-clawed otters (Junglewalla Tours tell me they see otters on 50% of their mangrove eco-tours which sounds promising). I finished the mangrove walkway (never seems to be many birds in there, but I saw mangrove whistler which was good) and climbed up the is-it-safe-? watchtower just nearby (it is a little rickety and it sways when you're on it which isn't comforting!). An ashy tailorbird was hopping around in the tree next to the tower and I got a good photo of it. A couple of white-rumped munias were feeding in the grass below and a white-breasted waterhen ran across the path. A pack of three dogs then ran along the path so I stayed up in the tower a while longer because I don't trust dogs out on their own! A crested serpent-eagle was soaring around amongst the Brahminy kites and swiftlets. When I came down I went to where the munias had been to see if I could get a closer look but they had gone, then I took the track that ran back towards the entrance. On the outer side of the track (i.e. on the other side from the lagoon) is a creek which is hidden from view most of the time by the long grasses along the edge. Just by the tower, on the junction of the track, is a spot where you can look straight down one section of the creek, which I naturally did to see if there was an otter down there – and there was!!! I was just a little surprised, especially given that the time was quarter to midday. The otter was periscoping (i.e. lifting its head and body straight up out of the water to see things better), then it went behind some of the grasses, then it appeared again, lifting itself high to scope me out. There was a little tree in the way so I took one step sideways to get an open shot and the otter dived with a big splash and then took off up the far bank through the grass (I couldn't see the otter itself, just the grass thrashing wildlly as it escaped). So I didn't see it for long but it is my first wild otter so I am really happy, and I still hope to get better views in Singapore if the otters are still reliable there (fingers crossed). Wildlife-watching is a funny thing, there is so much luck involved. I saw the otter in precisely the one spot where I could see it (as opposed to it being in any other spot where the creek was completely hidden, which was most of its length); if I had spent longer or shorter up the tower I wouldn't have seen it, if I hadn't spent time going to see if the munias were still there I wouldn't have seen it, all sorts of lucky variables come into play. In short, if you are going to Kuala Selangor but you only have one day there, don't give up hope you might see the otters whilst there! (Just as an aside, that otter was number 199 on my life list, so whatever comes next will make the nice round 200).

Apart for the otter other mammals I saw were numerous plantain squirrels and the ubiquitous crab-eating macaques. I didn't see any silvered leaf monkeys in the reserve but I knew they were easy to see just up the road at the top of the hill where people go to feed them. (In the morning most of the leaf monkeys and macaques leave the reserve for the feeding area and then come back in the afternoon). It is just a short walk, and sure enough there were loads of both species of monkeys up there. I've seen silvered leaf monkeys before in several places but I think this is probably the only place on this trip where they're found and I wanted to see them again. I don't really like seeing monkey-feeding areas, it seems almost degrading seeing the monkeys begging for hand-outs. I prefer to see them in the forest, but if they aren't in the forest then what are you going to do? It was interesting seeing the two species feeding together. Macaques are always ready to bare their teeth and threaten to bite if you don't hand over the food; they are the brawlers of the monkey world. The leaf monkeys look much more delicate in comparison with their long legs and skinny body, and their permanently surprised expression suggests they wouldn't hurt a fly. They really were more refined, standing upright with hand held out, then taking bits of food gently. Several had babies with them, which are bright orange in colour (the adults being a dark blackish-grey).

Today I am off to Bukit Fraser for a few days. I've been there before as well so most of the birds won't be new, but I am hoping to see some new mammals (hopefully including slow loris which is almost my nemesis mammal!). This morning while I was plaiting my hair on the little balcony, the koel was calling away as usual. But this time he flew right past the building from one tree to another, and then a female koel flew out of the same tree and landed in a tree directly opposite me, maybe twenty feet away. The male flew back to his original tree, a couple of pink-necked green pigeons flew in the opposite direction and then the female koel followed the pigeons. So I did get to see the local koels properly before I left after all!
 
I am hoping to see some new mammals (hopefully including slow loris which is almost my nemesis mammal!).

I suppose now is a bad time to note that - albeit in captivity - I have seen a total of 5 taxa in the Lorisidae if one counts the Potto. :D
 
I suppose now is a bad time to note that - albeit in captivity - I have seen a total of 5 taxa in the Lorisidae if one counts the Potto. :D
I've seen slow loris in captivity - they are all over the place in Asia. I just don't know how I've managed to not see one in the wild!!

I would like to see a potto though.
 
Do you think you have much chance spotting a wild pangolin anywhere you will be going? Have you seen any captive ones this trip? I don't remember any...
 
Did you just say that you were plaiting your hair? What does that mean? Is it the same as braiding? Exactly how long is your hair??
 
Did you just say that you were plaiting your hair? What does that mean? Is it the same as braiding? Exactly how long is your hair??
yes a plait and a braid are the same thing. I think it depends on which part of the UK one's ancestors hail from as to what you call it. Exactly how exact do you want me to be in the measurements of my hair length?
 
Do you think you have much chance spotting a wild pangolin anywhere you will be going? Have you seen any captive ones this trip? I don't remember any...
man, pangolins are hard!! Especially nowadays with them all being eaten! And they don't have eye-shine (or rather they do, but their eyes are so little that there's not much shine to give them away) so you can't find them in the same way as most nocturnal animals. If I find one it will be pure luck....I am hoping to be lucky! I have never seen a pangolin before, wild or captive.

I hopefully will see the one at Singapore Zoo (or Night Zoo or River Safari or where-ever it is) when I get down there, although I'm not quite sure when that will be. There's another zoo which has bred them somewhere in Asia.....I can't remember which one - maybe in Taiwan? I do plan on going to Taiwan as well but that depends on if I still have money left.
 
man, pangolins are hard!! Especially nowadays with them all being eaten! And they don't have eye-shine (or rather they do, but their eyes are so little that there's not much shine to give them away) so you can't find them in the same way as most nocturnal animals. If I find one it will be pure luck....I am hoping to be lucky! I have never seen a pangolin before, wild or captive.

I hopefully will see the one at Singapore Zoo (or Night Zoo or River Safari or where-ever it is) when I get down there, although I'm not quite sure when that will be. There's another zoo which has bred them somewhere in Asia.....I can't remember which one - maybe in Taiwan? I do plan on going to Taiwan as well but that depends on if I still have money left.

Taiwan's Taipei Zoo has Chinese Pangolins on display! They were very active when I visited a couple of years back. Night Safari holds the Sunda Pangolin. Zero to 2 species in one trip :)

You really should just camp out in Singapore for a couple of months, wild pangolins turn up in suburban areas next to forests on a regular basis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZReQF6LPKXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfubNPQY1HM
 
yes a plait and a braid are the same thing. I think it depends on which part of the UK one's ancestors hail from as to what you call it. Exactly how exact do you want me to be in the measurements of my hair length?

To the nearest centimetre or relative to your body (eg shoulder length). ;)
 
Taiwan's Taipei Zoo has Chinese Pangolins on display! They were very active when I visited a couple of years back. Night Safari holds the Sunda Pangolin. Zero to 2 species in one trip :)

You really should just camp out in Singapore for a couple of months, wild pangolins turn up in suburban areas next to forests on a regular basis:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZReQF6LPKXI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfubNPQY1HM

Singapore has some world class zoos and they are no doubt at the forefront of animal husbandry and conservation, but what about the attitudes of the average joe toward wildlife? Does the large Chinese-descended population eat shark fin, snake, turtle etc? Would those pangolins be protected or will they be eaten?
 
To the nearest centimetre or relative to your body (eg shoulder length). ;)
waist-length when plaited, longer when out (think Anthony Kiedis before he chopped it all off). I wear it plaited when I'm travelling because it keeps it out of the way and makes a handy fly-whisk.
 
waist-length when plaited, longer when out (think Anthony Kiedis before he chopped it all off). I wear it plaited when I'm travelling because it keeps it out of the way and makes a handy fly-whisk.

A well-built 6 footer named Israel with waist length hair.... you probably stick out like a sore thumb in Asia. :D
 
Singapore has some world class zoos and they are no doubt at the forefront of animal husbandry and conservation, but what about the attitudes of the average joe toward wildlife? Does the large Chinese-descended population eat shark fin, snake, turtle etc? Would those pangolins be protected or will they be eaten?

Shark fin consumption is still high in Singapore, although it is declining steadily; snakes and soft-shelled turtle are consumed in far smaller quantities as traditional medicine/delicacies.

I don't think consumption of pangolins is legal (nor popular) in Singapore. It certainly is illegal to capture them (and all other native wild animals for that matter). Their biggest threat here is habitat destruction.
 
waist-length when plaited, longer when out (think Anthony Kiedis before he chopped it all off). I wear it plaited when I'm travelling because it keeps it out of the way and makes a handy fly-whisk.

Never cut it off. Like Samson, it would reduce all your powers, especially your obvious resistance to the extreme rigours of travel and endurance you demonstrate so well.:)
 
Shark fin consumption is still high in Singapore, although it is declining steadily; snakes and soft-shelled turtle are consumed in far smaller quantities as traditional medicine/delicacies.

I don't think consumption of pangolins is legal (nor popular) in Singapore. It certainly is illegal to capture them (and all other native wild animals for that matter). Their biggest threat here is habitat destruction.

Well that's good to hear then.

Do Singaporeans of Chinese ancestry look down on Chinese from China as being backward/third world? Having visited both China and Singapore for a few days each, they seemed like polar opposites to me, so I was wondering if the apparent difference was just superficial or if it was a fair assessment.
 
Tell us more about their drivel. What do they talk about?
Some things said by two girls who were in my dorm in Kuala Lumpur. I will call them “Stupid Girl” and “Other Girl” which aren't very nice names but it is what it is.


1) *Stupid Girl to Other Girl: “Do you have cockroaches in England?”


2) *(When discussing Santa)
Other Girl: “Santa comes from Lapland”
Stupid Girl: “Is that in the Middle East?”
Other Girl: “What?!”
Stupid Girl: “Santa comes from the Middle East”
Other Girl: “Santa comes from Lapland”
Stupid Girl: “I don't know where that is”
Other Girl: “It's at the North Pole”
Stupid Girl: “Well I was reading this thing that said that Christmas isn't actually about Santa. Christmas started in Israel, so the Christmas cards are wrong because it doesn't snow in Israel. It is about, um, that holy place....in Israel....” (sentence trails off)


3) *After the room had been bug-bombed because an Australian guy had brought bed-bugs in with him and they were now in the bed of Stupid Girl, the staff member said “you need to leave the room for five minutes” and Stupid Girl said “all of us?”. I couldn't help myself and said “no, just you”.
 
Stupid Girl: “Well I was reading this thing that said that Christmas isn't actually about Santa. Christmas started in Israel, so the Christmas cards are wrong because it doesn't snow in Israel. It is about, um, that holy place....in Israel....” (sentence trails off)

I'm amazed you didn't ask her what part of you is the holy place :p
 
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