Crocodilian breeding

Jordan-Jaguar97

Jordan-Jaguar97

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I was reading through a ZSL Whipsnade Zoo archive about them breeding two West African dwarf crocodiles in 2002. I know since then that Crocodiles of the World have bred them. Can anybody help me on the following (Which Zoo has bred the following):

a) Siamese crocodile (I presume none)
b) Muggers crocodile (I presume none)
c) Yacare caiman (I know Blackpool have bred one from the resident pair in 2007, he is now at the Lakes Aquarium)
d) West African dwarf crocodile (Whipsnade and Crocodiles of the World have, Bristol's were spotted nesting by another Zoochat member).
e) American alligator (Welsh Mountain bred them in the 90's and had eggs a few years ago)
f) Cuvier's dwarf caiman (Crocodiles of the World bred them on the 3/4th December).
g) Black caiman (I presume none)
h) Spectacled caiman (Though fairly common, I haven't a clue if they've bred)
i) Philippine Crocodile (I know none have bred, London have a pair whilst Paignton have Chester's on-loan).
j) Indian and false gharial (I don't have a clue what so ever on them!)
k) Estuarine crocodiles (I don't know they don't seem to be any in any public collections in the UK)
l) New Guinea crocodile (None in the UK)
m) Morelet's crocodiles (Cotswold have bred them on 02/09/09 and in 2010)

I have forgotten a few species that's just off the top of my head:p
 
Jordan-Jaguar97 said:
I was reading through a ZSL Whipsnade Zoo archive about them breeding two West African dwarf crocodiles in 2002. I know since then that Crocodiles of the World have bred them. Can anybody help me on the following (Which Zoo has bred the following):

a) Siamese crocodile (I presume none)
b) Muggers crocodile (I presume none)
c) Yacare caiman (I know Blackpool have bred one from the resident pair in 2007, he is now at the Lakes Aquarium)
d) West African dwarf crocodile (Whipsnade and Crocodiles of the World have, Bristol's were spotted nesting by another Zoochat member).
e) American alligator (Welsh Mountain bred them in the 90's and had eggs a few years ago)
f) Cuvier's dwarf caiman (Crocodiles of the World bred them on the 3/4th December).
g) Black caiman (I presume none)
h) Spectacled caiman (Though fairly common, I haven't a clue if they've bred)
i) Philippine Crocodile (I know none have bred, London have a pair whilst Paignton have Chester's on-loan).
j) Indian and false gharial (I don't have a clue what so ever on them!)
k) Estuarine crocodiles (I don't know they don't seem to be any in any public collections in the UK)
l) New Guinea crocodile (None in the UK)
m) Morelet's crocodiles (Cotswold have bred them on 02/09/09 and in 2010)

I have forgotten a few species that's just off the top of my head:p
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Chinese Alligator, Schnieder's dwarf caiman, Broad-snouted caiman, American crocodile, Cuban crocodile, Orinoco crocodile, Freshwater crocodile, slender-snouted crocodile and both species of Nile crocodile are the ones you're missing, though there are no Orinoco crocs in the UK and not 100% sure if there ever have been :)

Anyway, to answer a couple I believe a good amount of Spectacled caiman have been bred in the UK in private hands, as for zoos though I'm not sure.

With any reptile, it is always worth looking around private owners as well as zoos as it is quite often a private owner that holds a UK first breeding for a reptile [partly because you can pick up a huge diversity of reptiles privately that just aren't about in zoos for one reason or another]. For example, I am waiting to bring home a couple of animals that are only in two other public collections in Europe, and I have a species that isn't anywhere in European public zoos [going by zootierliste anyway, which of course may not be accurate. According to zootierliste, the last place to hold them [and only] was London Zoo in the 1800's]. I think both [or at least the latter] is common as muck in the private trade :p
 
Thanks for that JR.

I know that there are a few Spectacled caiman in the UK [Including private collections] so I thought they may have bred.:D

Hopefully somebody else will know more on the situation.
 
Jordan-Jaguar97 said:
Thanks for that JR.

I know that there are a few Spectacled caiman in the UK [Including private collections] so I thought they may have bred.:D

Hopefully somebody else will know more on the situation.
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I know of somewhere that was recently selling babies as my friend swapped his older one for a baby with him. Whether this person had bred them himself I'm not 100% sure, I think he did but with it being a shop/private owner I'm not prepared to say who just incase I'm wrong and/or they don't want me to say on an open forum - hope you understand, suffice to say I'd be suprised if there hadn't been a UK breeding of speccies :)
 
Of course, I understand the reason for it. I also know that they'll be some caiman developments (Not saying which species) this year, it was on the chatroom last night but I don't think it's been made public so won't say anything just yet.
 
Jordan-Jaguar97 said:
Of course, I understand the reason for it. I also know that they'll be some caiman developments (Not saying which species) this year, it was on the chatroom last night but I don't think it's been made public so won't say anything just yet.
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Completely understandable :) - I know what I've got my finger's crossed for, and will be interesting to follow this and see what happens this year :)
 
Shuttleworth college recently bred spectacled caiman. They currently have one hatchling onsite along with it's parents.
 
To Jordan-Jaguar97,my mum and I have made quite a bit of money from complaining about zoos so i suppose I know quite a lot about the subject.You missed Niles which were bred at Dudley as long ago as 1977[possibly the first crocodilians in Britain to do so].Gharials have never bred in the world outside of Asia,although both St Augustine and Fort Worth have had infertile eggs recently.
 
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