Odense Zoo Danish zoos

Toddy said:
Sally and Salome is not the same gorilla. Sally came from Dublin (not sure where she was born), and is very much alive. Salome came from Copenhagen with Samson. Her only child Effie was sent to Berlin a few years ago. She died of a tumor one or two years after the arrival to Givskud :(.
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Sally's proper name is also Salome! The 'other' Salome I think came from Rotterdam Zoo. 'Sally'(Salome) was born in Frankfurt(Solomon x Makulla) in 1969 and was sent, aged nearly 30 years to Dublin then a year later in 1999 to Givskud.

Are you sure she's still alive? I heard that she died a year or so ago. (The other Salome's daughter 'Effie' is now in London Zoo.)
 
Pertinax said:
Sally's proper name is also Salome! The 'other' Salome I think came from Rotterdam Zoo.
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I did not know this. Thanks for the background info :)

Pertinax said:
Are you sure she's still alive? I heard that she died a year or so ago. (The other Salome's daughter 'Effie' is now in London Zoo.)
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I saw her in August, and have been recieving the newsletter from Givskud Zoo for a long time. She is also still registered in ISIS, so yeah, I'm pretty sure she is alive.
Thanks for the info on Effie. I knew that she had moved from Berlin, but I didn't know to where. I hope she is enjoying her new Gorilla Kingdom ;).

UPDATE
Randers Regnskov Tropical Zoo announced today the birth of five bush dogs. Randers is one of the few zoos in the world to breed bush dogs, and it's the first time this has been done in Scandinavia. The pair has lived in the zoo since 2003, and some of us was beginning to wonder if they would ever breed. But in the summer 2007, they surprised everyone with a litter of three cubs, and in January another five cubs was born. Congratulations Randers :D
 
I have heard that Frankfurt`s Salome died some time ago too... she left a 3 or 4 year old male behind. I am pretty sure she is really dead, unfortunately, my source is extremely reliable. Her son is be very important genetically, isn`t he Pertinax? Samson is wildborn with not many breeding offspring (yet), and Salome`s parents aren`t well represented, neither, at least her dather Solomon isn`t if I remember right.
 
ex Frankfurt 'Salome'

ex-Frankfurt Salome(Irish 'Sally') has definately been dead some time.. I don't have her death date though. Toddy might(?) have seen her last August but I don't think so as I believe she had died previously to that...

Yassa is correct- she has left a son 'Kipenzi'(born 2002) living in the group- he pined after his mother's death but with support from the others, he got over it. This was Salome's first baby after a very long spell of non-breeding, she also has one daughter Leisel(from her Frankfurt days) in Budapest who herself has bred several offspring. Salome was the ONLY offspring of the Frankfurt male Solomon(in between 'Abraham' and Matz') who didn't live very long at Frankfurt and her mother was Makulla(now dead) who also has few living representatives.
I'm not sure if Salome didn't have another infant after 'Kipenzi' as well?

So, yes. 'Kipenzi' is a genetically valuable male.

At one stage there were 3 'Salomes' in the EEP Gorilla population- now there's only one- at Bristol.
 
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Givskud Gorilla enclosure indoor area

CZJimmy said:
There does appear to be quite a few images on Flickr...
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Unfortunately only a couple show the indoor area and even then you can't see how bare it is (unless its been upgraded,of course) I would still like to see some recent photos of it- to prove or disprove my point.
 
Okay, it looks like the winner of our gorilla discussion is Pertinax. I was confusing Sally with another female, Amani.
 
Hello Toddy,

Aim a bit curious about the Douroucoulis kept in Randers Regnskov Tropical Zoo, you list them as Aotus lemurinus but on ISIS they are kept as Aotus azarai boliviensis. Have they kept Aotus azarai or are the ISIS records incorrect?

There is also 1 Ateles belzebuth hybridus listed for Copenhagen Zoo on ISIS, is that also incorrect?

Do you happen to know anything about the Saguinus fuscicollis kept in Odsherreds Zoo? numbers and where they come from? perhaps also which subspecies they belongs to?

Sorry if I have to many questions for you:D
 
Hi sebbe67

No, that's not to many questions. Some of them are a bit hard maybe, but I will answer as best i can ;)

The douroucoulis at Randers has got me jiggered :confused:. I'm not sure where I have the Aotus lemurinus from, but something must be wrong, either at Randers' own website or on ISIS. It says that they keep 1.0.4 Aotus azarai boliviensis, but on their own website, the classify them as Aotus trivirgatus. I am going to visit Randers on Febuary 13th (Wednesday), so I will look into it then. BTW, does anyone from ZooBeat have any special photo requests from Randers Regnskov? Cause now is your chance ;). Here is also a link to some photos from Randers.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that the Ateles belzebuth hybridus in Copenhagen must be a mistake. We currently keep 0.2 Ateles geoffroyi in the enclosure.

Odsherreds Zoo is pretty bad at handing out information the zoo-fans, so I don't have much info on their animals. I think they keep 2 or 3 Saguinus fuscicollis, but I don't know the subspecies. As they are a minizoo, they most likely got them from a private breeder or another minizoo not registered on ISIS.

I hope this helps :). And I will look into the douroucoulis and spider monkeys when I get the chance.
 
Okay, I will try to get some good manatee shots :). I actually don't think that they keep any hornbills, pheasants or storks, but if I see some interesting birds, I will take some photos, and let you bird-fans decide if they are anything special ;). I'm still taking photo orders.
 
Sumatran rhino enclosure.

Toddy- on a historic note... is the enclosure the Sumatran Rhino 'Subur' once occupied at Copenhagen still in existence? If so, has it been altered and what species does it hold now?
 
Actually, I haven't been able to find out where Subur used to live :(. My guess would be either the camel house (still in use) or the current elephant house. I do know Suburs present location however, the Zoological Museum in Copenhagen ;).
 
Her exhibit had a dry moat with a rock wall as the moats face when looking into the exhibit from the public pathway
 
Subur's enclosure

MARK said:
Her exhibit had a dry moat with a rock wall as the moats face when looking into the exhibit from the public pathway
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Okay, so I just spent the last hour researching this, and I think I know the answer. Subur used to live in the old "vinterhouse", originally built to house cold-sensitive animals during winter. In Suburs time, it would have been occupied by her and malayan tapirs. The house does not exist anymore, it was demolished in 2003, but the outdoor enclosures still do. Luckily, I had already uploaded a picture of it in the gallery. It now houses malayan tapirs. As you can see, it can be split in to. My guess is that Subur used the enclosure to the left. From historical photos, this seems about right. Just imagine the enclosure a bit less green ;). Also, it was recently renovated. Notice the dry moat with little rock walls in the right of the picture. This was my most important clue, as this moat is still used around most of the enclosure.

Hope this helps :)
 
Toddy said:
Hi sebbe67

No, that's not to many questions. Some of them are a bit hard maybe, but I will answer as best i can ;)

The douroucoulis at Randers has got me jiggered :confused:. I'm not sure where I have the Aotus lemurinus from, but something must be wrong, either at Randers' own website or on ISIS. It says that they keep 1.0.4 Aotus azarai boliviensis, but on their own website, the classify them as Aotus trivirgatus. I am going to visit Randers on Febuary 13th (Wednesday), so I will look into it then. BTW, does anyone from ZooBeat have any special photo requests from Randers Regnskov? Cause now is your chance ;). Here is also a link to some photos from Randers.

Yes, I'm pretty sure that the Ateles belzebuth hybridus in Copenhagen must be a mistake. We currently keep 0.2 Ateles geoffroyi in the enclosure.

Odsherreds Zoo is pretty bad at handing out information the zoo-fans, so I don't have much info on their animals. I think they keep 2 or 3 Saguinus fuscicollis, but I don't know the subspecies. As they are a minizoo, they most likely got them from a private breeder or another minizoo not registered on ISIS.

I hope this helps :). And I will look into the douroucoulis and spider monkeys when I get the chance.
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Thanks Toddy,

Yes that surely helped me, will be interresting to see what you will manage to find out about the Aotus kept at Randers.
 
First ever baby rhino in Knuthenborg killed

It was with great joy that Knuthenborg Safaripark this summer announced that one of their female white rhinoes was pregnant. The female Bertha is one of the 2.2 white rhinoes that live on the savannah in Knuthenborg, and all of them are born in the wild in South Africa.

Sadly, her litlle calf only survived 12 hours after being born on Febuary 8th, 2008. Bertha was a first time mother, and accidently crushed her own calf. There was nothing wrong with her maternal instincts however, she loved her calf.

This was Knuthenborg Safari's first rhino birth, and dispite this sad event, they are trying their best efforts to get their rhinoes to breed again. Hopefully this time with a happy ending.
 
Toddy,

I have another question about primates in danish zoos for you. Do you happen to know anything about the Callithrix penicillata and Cercocebus torquatus kept in Skærup Zoo?

Thanks
 
Again with the questions! :p. No seriously, it's nice to see that you take an interest in the danish zoos. Keep asking ;).

I know that Skærup Zoo keeps two groups black-eared marmosets (callithrix penicillata) with about 7 members in each. I don't know about the red-capped mangabey (cercocebus torquatus) though. I'm not not even sure that they keep these anymore. I am expecting a copy of their species-list any day now, so I will post here when I know something.

I have now made a list of things I have promised to check for you members here at ZooBeat, so I don't forget some of them. I will let you know when I find out anything about the mangabeys. Also, I am going to ask the guides and keepers in Randers Regnskov this wednesday about the douroucoulis.
 
Toddy said:
Sadly, her litlle calf only survived 12 hours after being born on Febuary 8th, 2008. Bertha was a first time mother, and accidently crushed her own calf. There was nothing wrong with her maternal instincts however, she loved her calf.
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I read some story in Danish on the website of Knuthenborg Safari Park the other day. Could not quite make out, but believed that a mating occurred prior to the expected birth. Can you translate for us?

So sad that the female crushed her calf. I put it down to inexperience. I hope she will quickly reacquire her composure and breed to the male Oskar. Also, her companion too ..... Perhaps 2 calves in the next year or so. :eek:
 
jelle said:
I read some story in Danish on the website of Knuthenborg Safari Park the other day. Could not quite make out, but believed that a mating occurred prior to the expected birth. Can you translate for us?

So sad that the female crushed her calf. I put it down to inexperience. I hope she will quickly reacquire her composure and breed to the male Oskar. Also, her companion too ..... Perhaps 2 calves in the next year or so. :eek:
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I am asuming that this is the page you are referring to?
If so, this is the message they sent out when they discovered that Bertha was pregnant, so what it bassicly says, is that they expect a rhino baby around January. Then there is some alround info on rhinos in the EEP.
If this wasn't the page you meant, then post a link, and I will take a look at it. BTW, they have not updated Knuthenborg's website after the death of the rhino calf. I got the news through a group of zoo keepers.
 
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