De Brazza's Guenons

I thought that all macaque species were being phased out because, with the high rate of macaques carrying Herpes A, further imports were a forlorn hope?
 
The herpes issue-vet issue, Biosecurity import/export laws and ill-informed decisions by individual zoos that preclude any current or future species management (e.g. neutering or sterilising or simply separate the sexes) in the region ...!!! Pffftt, need we go on???!

Now, I really do love Oz and Kiwi ..., but the above just makes "a killing" in zoo management environment. Seeing and acknowledging that Australia and New Zealand are islands is no reason to effectively stop global mobility in any way possible ..., and even less so a reason to stop effective regional exotic species management.

You esteemed guys and girls ... really do need to make upfront decisions long-term on which species to maintain and which not to and then act accordingly and decisively at every level (all the way from the zoo floors to the highest places in federal government with Biosecurity and Ministry of Agriculture and sundry). This means ... prior population management and where species are deemed SURPLUS to re-export those to regions that DO have a species management scheme for them (rather than the phasing out by natural attrition or active contraceptive management measures) and import pro-actively and in good numbers those species deemed complimentary to the goals of the ENTIRE zoo-geographical regions of Australia, New Zealand and the dependent or attendant Polynesian territories (thinking of Fiji, Papua New Guinea, Samoa and others here). :cool:

This is a LOVE SONG on how things should be in your zoo corner of our wonderful globe! (please no Euro bashing or taking it too personal, it is mere advice on the best possible ways forward ... and for goodness sake I will again re-enter ARAZPA supporting membership)! :D
 
Don't worry Kifaru Bwana, you have summed up perfectly what a lot of us Aussies think.

There's too much chopping and changing; too much half-hearted commitment and too much "writing off" of valuable animals (and I don't mean monetary value, either.)

Our governments don't help much, either - too much red tape and a reluctance to recognise that zoos in this country are responsible organisations which are not going to deliberately liberate exotics.
 
Don't worry Kifaru Bwana, you have summed up perfectly what a lot of us Aussies think.

There's too much chopping and changing; too much half-hearted commitment and too much "writing off" of valuable animals (and I don't mean monetary value, either.)

Could not agree with you more Ara and very well said Kifaru Bwana
 
I think in the case of these beautiful primate species such as De Brazza and Lion tailed Macaque which are 'fading' in Australia, the only hope to save them now would be if someone with some money could step in privately- build a decent enclosure or two and persuade the zoos that hold the last few of both these 'phase out' species to let them be assembled in single groups(or at least in close proximity with each other) which would probably stimulate breeding.(A small scale version of the Duke of Bedford and Pere David's deer perhaps!)

The inbreeding aspect is of lesser concern if the alternative is that you'll never see these animals in Australia again.
 
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