Do you eat meat?

Do you eat meat?

  • Yes (i.e. I eat the flesh of animals, including sea food)

    Votes: 86 84.3%

  • No

    Votes: 16 15.7%
  • Total voters
    102
I grew up eating and loving it.
Now because the oceans are dieing and the worlds livestock animals eat more tuna then the worlds cats I dont want to be apart of the depleting ocean. Therefore vegetarian, but I dont judge those who do eat meat because its their choice :) and my animals dont fallow my morals either :)
 
I was exposed to a lot of death of stock, and had to euthanase animals many years back as a keeper, ultimately this is what made me become a vegan. I was a vegan for many years, and became intolerant of many of the foods I relied on (soy, oats, gluten, fake meat substitutes etc). I really thought I'd found the right way but I think I didn't eat healthily enough as a vegan and so became over-reliant on caffeine, sugar and refined carbs. If you're going to be vegan and healthy, and deal with large amounts of potentially very triggering phytates in virtually all of your diet (sans fermented foods, which are also very important for vegans), you're going to need to not prop yourself up with vegan-friendly junk, or you risk becoming intolerant to the foods you need.

Nowadays, I eat wild-caught fish (not salmon or tuna), local eggs, vegetables etc.

I struggle with industrialised farming. I don't like the disconnect, I can't deal with the idea of slaugterhouses. I think this is at a core level where many people who turn to a meat-free diet sense that something is wrong. If we were less urbanised, chances are we'd also be more self-sufficient and more likely to run smallholdings/rear and kill our own food, so I think its partly true to say that people have become squeamish about how we get meat, but also part of that squeamishness may be a reaction to the industrialisation of meat production.

So now, I get a lot of eggs from city farms where I know they don't send the chickens off to slaughter at end of lay. I also eat fish, I don't see a problem with eating relatively abundant wild-caught species once or twice a week. The fact they've had a fair shot, and die in no worse a way than if caught by a predator, makes a difference to me. If I was rich, I'd eat rabbits/woodpigeons that had been shot (not trapped first).

There is a slight machismo about this thread, and I think its interesting that so many people see meat-eating (and celebrating doing it) as linked to how masculine they are. I feel pretty manly when I'm filleting a fish, its such a weird thing wired into us.

As someone else said, vegetarianism is a joke. All dairy requires cows/goats/sheep to be in calf/kid/lamb, and the infant will be removed from the mother, and killed if male. Same for egg production, loads of laying hens are hatched and all the males usually killed at birth. Laying hens go to slaughter at a few years, as do dairy animals. Vegetarianism subsidises meat production.

I think overall its about being discerning, admitting if you do things you don't agree with rather than pretending you make all your choices around food because you want to, and always looking for the better option.
 
johnstoni. said:
I was exposed to a lot of death of stock, and had to euthanase animals many years back as a keeper, ultimately this is what made me become a vegan. I was a vegan for many years, and became intolerant of many of the foods I relied on (soy, oats, gluten, fake meat substitutes etc). I really thought I'd found the right way but I think I didn't eat healthily enough as a vegan and so became over-reliant on caffeine, sugar and refined carbs. If you're going to be vegan and healthy, and deal with large amounts of potentially very triggering phytates in virtually all of your diet (sans fermented foods, which are also very important for vegans), you're going to need to not prop yourself up with vegan-friendly junk, or you risk becoming intolerant to the foods you need.

Nowadays, I eat wild-caught fish (not salmon or tuna), local eggs, vegetables etc.

I struggle with industrialised farming. I don't like the disconnect, I can't deal with the idea of slaugterhouses. I think this is at a core level where many people who turn to a meat-free diet sense that something is wrong. If we were less urbanised, chances are we'd also be more self-sufficient and more likely to run smallholdings/rear and kill our own food, so I think its partly true to say that people have become squeamish about how we get meat, but also part of that squeamishness may be a reaction to the industrialisation of meat production.

So now, I get a lot of eggs from city farms where I know they don't send the chickens off to slaughter at end of lay. I also eat fish, I don't see a problem with eating relatively abundant wild-caught species once or twice a week. The fact they've had a fair shot, and die in no worse a way than if caught by a predator, makes a difference to me. If I was rich, I'd eat rabbits/woodpigeons that had been shot (not trapped first).

There is a slight machismo about this thread, and I think its interesting that so many people see meat-eating (and celebrating doing it) as linked to how masculine they are. I feel pretty manly when I'm filleting a fish, its such a weird thing wired into us.

As someone else said, vegetarianism is a joke. All dairy requires cows/goats/sheep to be in calf/kid/lamb, and the infant will be removed from the mother, and killed if male. Same for egg production, loads of laying hens are hatched and all the males usually killed at birth. Laying hens go to slaughter at a few years, as do dairy animals. Vegetarianism subsidises meat production.

I think overall its about being discerning, admitting if you do things you don't agree with rather than pretending you make all your choices around food because you want to, and always looking for the better option.
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There're several small farms in my area and I don't think any of them slaughters there animals but some still sell milk and eggs (and home made jam).

~Thylo:cool:
 
johnstoni. said:
I struggle with industrialised farming. I don't like the disconnect, I can't deal with the idea of slaugterhouses. I think this is at a core level where many people who turn to a meat-free diet sense that something is wrong. If we were less urbanised, chances are we'd also be more self-sufficient and more likely to run smallholdings/rear and kill our own food, so I think its partly true to say that people have become squeamish about how we get meat, but also part of that squeamishness may be a reaction to the industrialisation of meat production.
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A big problem in Australia is how difficult it is to kill any animals for sale privately. This forces everyone to use abattoirs. In the UK wild shot animals can be sold for human consumption and many farms have a small processing building for their own animals. I recently watched "River Cottage" Christmas special where the host went to a deer farm and shot his deer for Christmas. It was then cut up in their processing facilities and put into their cool room.
That is the sort of thing I would like to do, as I could sell animals on farm to the end consumer and myself and the buyers would know how the animals where handled through the whole process.

I actually don't have a problem with Vegans as I grow a lot of Soybeans and the human consumption market gives us the highest price.
 
Honestly I cannot morally or ethically eat meat. I have too much love and respect for animals, like stefka and zooplantman i am a vegetarian (Not a vegan), and like stefka said I cant be a vegan because I like eggs, cheese, ice cream etc. too much to avoid those foods but the thing is that cows raised for dairy and the chickens raised for there eggs have to be treated with tender love, care and respect, thats the bottom line. I hate to preach my views but i am just going to mention what i believe, this is what i believe, animals are the greatest things on earth and we need to preserve, protect, love and conserve them and not take them for granted, they are not ours to wear and they are not ours to eat. let me tell you what baffles me is that when i go to eat at my local indian resturant, the servers and cooks are vegetarian but will still serve and cook meat dishes like lamb vindaloo, chicken tikka masala, tandoori chicken, fish pakora etc., i tell you that really baffles me, anyways like i said i am a vegetarian with all the love and respect in the world for animals
 
Humans are omnivores, it's in our nature to eat both meat and fruits (and everything else that vegetarians only eat). I love animals too but I'm just following my Human nature and eating what I was born to eat- meat. Like I said before, I only eat domestic animals so I do not hurt wild numbers. I don't even eat wild-caught fish.

~Thylo:cool:
 
ungulate nerd said:
I hate to preach my views but i am just going to mention what i believe, this is what i believe, animals are the greatest things on earth and we need to preserve, protect, love and conserve them and not take them for granted, they are not ours to wear and they are not ours to eat.
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Don't you think people who eat meat love animals and do what they can to preserve and protect them. People who live in cities and spend little time with animals, especially wild animals, can become very disconnected due to their lack of nature where they live. This gives them a very short term view of don't kill them and they will be fine. What is needed is a long term view, protecting habitat and mitigating threats.

Wanting to eat animals is a very good motivation to protect them. I was talking to a bloke once who was telling me how much he likes to eat Kangaroos. He said he used to shoot them for dog food only, and shot as many as he could, and as they were a pest many were wasted. One day he kept one for his family and found it was so nice he now only shoots for them to eat, and never gives it to dogs any more. He now only shoots one when he needs meat and protects that population as a resource. He now does not see them as a pest and is happy to have a lot on his farm.
 
Not me, I went to a rural public school which was basically like a private school without any money haha. But I went to the University of Alabama for my undergrad.
 
Also I had a very good ribeye today for Christmas supper. We had lunch with the family and with the rain/storms/tornadoes we stayed in tonight and grilled steaks on the covered patio.
 
I would never eat lion meat unless it was a matter of life or death, but however I do love normal meat such as chicken, beef, pork, lamb, duck, turkey, quail, boar, woodcock, pheasant, guinea fowl, venison, seafood and most fish except tuna as it is an endangered species and it stinks.
I love bacon, burgers and all that kind of stuff :D
I think that humans should eat meat as we have evolved to eat it to grow larger brains which is how we got to where we are today.....
maybe in the future if everyone stopped eating meat then the brains might start to shrink and we would start devolving. :rolleyes:
 
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