Dublin Zoo Dublin in 2013

Not_a_Nautilus said:
I hate to come across like a jerk with a correction that has nothing to do with the subject at hand, but Ireland is most definitely not part of the UK. Gained independence after a bloody uprising nearly 100 years ago, after a long period of British rule that was not good for the Irish.

If you ever meet an Irish person in the flesh, do not make this mistake. They are almost guaranteed to take offence, especially especially since you seem to be English yourself (just going by your Location).
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A most unfortunate reaction to a genuine mistake!

Most Irish people are trying to move forward and forget the hatred of the past. The Irish had problems with the British government not the British people.

In fact, in my experience the British people and the Irish people get on very, very well with each other.

Most Irish people, apart from a very small minority (unfortunately, that you will find in all countries) would not take offence at all to this mistake. They may make a jovial correction much like a New Zealander when mistaken for an Australian, or a Canadian for an American. This reaction would be the same, no matter what the nationality of the person making the mistake!

Your comments about meeting an Irish person in the flesh and them taking offence especially because the person that made the mistake is English is nothing short of bigotry, and as an Irish National I am disgusted!

This is a non-political forum and I think all zoochatters would appreciate if you kept your political rants to other more appropriate forums.
 
Vulpes said:
This is a non-political forum and I think all zoochatters would appreciate if you kept your political rants to other more appropriate forums.
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I'm an Irish national too and it is entirely appropriate to remind people that Ireland is not part of the UK when they make that - common and frankly inexcusable - mistake. It was hardly a rant.
 
The tone of his message was not a reminder and you will note from my reply I have no problem with friendly reminders.
 
Matt Kehoe said:
Is it just me or is it not pathetic that such an established institution cant keep basic wildlife out? I mean a 7 foot, 1 inch mesh fence would keep everything from stoats to foxes out?
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There is a huge fence around Dublin zoo and the bars are less that one inch apart so it is surprising that animals still make it in. I guess the network of lakes within the zoo, fed by streams, that enter and exit through drains allow aquatic animals access, perhaps when it is dry foxes can go through the dry storm drains?
 
Vulpes said:
The tone of his message was not a reminder and you will note from my reply I have no problem with friendly reminders.
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You know how internet communications can't exactly convey tone as effectively as spoken conversations? Yes, about that...

Vulpes said:
A most unfortunate reaction to a genuine mistake!

Most Irish people are trying to move forward and forget the hatred of the past. The Irish had problems with the British government not the British people.

In fact, in my experience the British people and the Irish people get on very, very well with each other.

Most Irish people, apart from a very small minority (unfortunately, that you will find in all countries) would not take offence at all to this mistake. They may make a jovial correction much like a New Zealander when mistaken for an Australian, or a Canadian for an American. This reaction would be the same, no matter what the nationality of the person making the mistake!

Your comments about meeting an Irish person in the flesh and them taking offence especially because the person that made the mistake is English is nothing short of bigotry, and as an Irish National I am disgusted!

This is a non-political forum and I think all zoochatters would appreciate if you kept your political rants to other more appropriate forums.
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You see, my post was meant as, if not a "reminder", then at least a "lesson" of some sort (maybe a slightly stern one, but I did apologise in advance) and certainly not the "I hate British people" rant you seem to have interpreted it as. The difference between a "reminder" and a "lesson" being that I didn't know if I was speaking to someone who already knew what I was telling them and had forgotten for a second, or who genuinely had no idea (wouldn't be the first person in that second category I had ever met).

Again, I have nothing against British people, but the nationality of the person making the mistake is relevant when they come from one of the countries involved in the mistake. In your analogy, this is the Canadian being mistaken for an American by an American. And the American isn't just misinterpreting the Canadian's accent or something, they're outright stating that Canada is a part of the United States. I think a Canadian would be quite justified in taking offence at this, and taking more offence than if the same mistake was made by someone from, say, Taiwan.

I don't hate British people, but I do hate that mistake. If you don't, that's fine, I won't tell you that you have to. But, like Shirokuma, I personally just don't consider it acceptable.

I'm sorry if this just comes across as another inappropriate political post, but I think I'm entitled to try to defend myself from accusations of bigotry. The last I heard, the okapi were expected to arrive "around the 11th". I'll be at the zoo tomorrow and will check it out.
 
Sorry if I've missed this but I had a quick look through and although it was mentioned I coudn't see the confirmation.

Who’s the Daddy?

It is understood that two of the female asian elephants in Dublin Zoo are pregnant.

IT APPEARS that the new male Asian elephant in Dublin Zoo has gotten two females pregnant – and possibly a third.

Upali (18), who arrived to Dublin from Chester Zoo a year ago, could be responsible for a sizeable increase in the elephant herd at the zoo.

When he arrived last year, it was hoped that he, together with three breeding females, would increase the size of the Dublin Zoo herd.

According to zookeeper Brendan Walsh, that appears to be happening.

“Three of our oldest girls - we think two of them may be pregnant,” he said.

“With Dina (Bernhardine) and Anak, it's looking definite but we’re not completely certain,” he added.
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The title 'Who's the Daddy?' seems rather overused nowadays. In this case, the answer is- Upali of course. I think they should save its use for paternity issues.;)
 
Female Asha was born in May 2007. In the wild she would not conceive before 10-12 years. It is more common for elephants in captivity to conceive at a more precocious age as they develop and mature more quickly (it is food intake and all the rest …).
 
I'd be interested to know what the total and group composition of their Mangabeys are now.
 
Pertinax said:
I'd be interested to know what the total and group composition of their Mangabeys are now.
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As of the 2011 studbook: Group total at 1.1.2010 - 1.5 (a new male had been imported from Barcelona in 2009 and this was his first year with females following quarantine)

April 2010 - First offspring of the new male is born (a female)

May 2010 - 0.2 of the original 5 females are shipped from Dublin to Osnabruck

Status at 31.12.2010 - 1.4

2011
No transfers

Births - 1.2
1.0 - 04/6
0.1 - 17/6 (Handreared)
0.1 - 17/7

Status at 31.12.2011, 2.6

2012
No births/deaths or transfers are publicised - 2.6 as of 31.12.2012

2013
April 2013 - 0.2 (the 2010 female and the handreared female from June 2011) are shipped to London. Not sure if they still have the 2011 male and other 2011 female or not???

April 2013 - 1.0 born 5th April and 0.1 born 15th April
November 2013 - 0.1 born 11th November

Total as of December 2013 - 3.6 (assuming in this case, no deaths, no transfers of the 1.1 from 2011) :)
 
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