Edinburgh Zoo Edinburgh Zoo News 2015
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Ok so then we've got:
P.t (no-subspecies) = Qafzeh, Kilimi, Kindia, Eva, Emma, Edith, Velu, Liberius, David, Lucy
P.t.t = Cindy
P.t.v =Rene, Paul, Frek, Louis, Pearl, Sophie, Heleen, Lianne
P.t (no-subspecies) = Qafzeh, Kilimi, Kindia, Eva, Emma, Edith, Velu, Liberius, David, Lucy
P.t.t = Cindy
P.t.v =Rene, Paul, Frek, Louis, Pearl, Sophie, Heleen, Lianne
quote=ShonenJake13;900410]Ok so then we've got:
P.t (no-subspecies) = Qafzeh, Kilimi, Kindia, Eva, Emma, Edith, Velu, Liberius, David, Lucy
P.t.t = Cindy
P.t.v =Rene, Paul, Frek, Louis, Pearl, Sophie, Heleen, Lianne[/quote]
Velu is Heleens baby and is verus as only the verus chimps are allowed to breed.
P.t (no-subspecies) = Qafzeh, Kilimi, Kindia, Eva, Emma, Edith, Velu, Liberius, David, Lucy
P.t.t = Cindy
P.t.v =Rene, Paul, Frek, Louis, Pearl, Sophie, Heleen, Lianne[/quote]
Velu is Heleens baby and is verus as only the verus chimps are allowed to breed.
Ok 
that explains something I heard earlier today about Kindia and Eva mating (they were) and how they didn't know it was pointless.
That also narrows down who his dad is. Either Rene, Paul or Frek (or Louis)
that explains something I heard earlier today about Kindia and Eva mating (they were) and how they didn't know it was pointless.That also narrows down who his dad is. Either Rene, Paul or Frek (or Louis)
FunkyGibbon
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Thank you.
I wonder how many of us recent first time visitors have had this reaction.
Ok
That also narrows down who his dad is. Either Rene, Paul or Frek (or Louis)
Paul and Frek are non breeders so his dad is either Louis or Rene
No panda cubs this year...
Chris West, CEO of the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, said:
“Based upon our scientific data, the window has now passed during which Tian Tian would have given birth; therefore RZSS has to advise that we now do not believe that our female giant panda will have a cub.
“Tian Tian is still showing behaviour of a pregnant panda, being sleepy and off her food, but we now must assume she has resorbed her pregnancy in late term. It is believed that resorption is a common occurrence in giant pandas, as it is in other species, and may well be the true explanation behind many so-called ‘fake’ pregnancies.
“This year we believe we have achieved the world’s most comprehensive hormone analysis of an individual female giant panda. We are also hopeful that RZSS has made some key discoveries relating to giant panda pregnancy, which will add to the global understanding of this endangered species.
“The conservation of giant pandas is a complex international effort. Although still early in the birthing season, this year we have had fantastic news from the National Zoo, Washington, and Zoo Negara in Malaysia. Our hopes and best wishes are now with Memphis Zoo and Ocean Park Hong Kong. No giant panda zoo works in isolation and success for one institution means success for the overall giant panda conservation programme.
“I would personally like to thank all those involved within RZSS and our external partners for their professionalism and dedication over many months of preparation and hard work.
“Going forward we will conduct an exhaustive review and consult with other colleagues. RZSS is committed long term to giant panda conservation and working with our many research partners and colleagues in China.”
The outdoor viewing area of the panda enclosure at RZSS Edinburgh Zoo will open to the public today, 25 August 2015.
- See more at: Edinburgh Zoo - Tian Tian Update
Chris West, CEO of the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland, said:
“Based upon our scientific data, the window has now passed during which Tian Tian would have given birth; therefore RZSS has to advise that we now do not believe that our female giant panda will have a cub.
“Tian Tian is still showing behaviour of a pregnant panda, being sleepy and off her food, but we now must assume she has resorbed her pregnancy in late term. It is believed that resorption is a common occurrence in giant pandas, as it is in other species, and may well be the true explanation behind many so-called ‘fake’ pregnancies.
“This year we believe we have achieved the world’s most comprehensive hormone analysis of an individual female giant panda. We are also hopeful that RZSS has made some key discoveries relating to giant panda pregnancy, which will add to the global understanding of this endangered species.
“The conservation of giant pandas is a complex international effort. Although still early in the birthing season, this year we have had fantastic news from the National Zoo, Washington, and Zoo Negara in Malaysia. Our hopes and best wishes are now with Memphis Zoo and Ocean Park Hong Kong. No giant panda zoo works in isolation and success for one institution means success for the overall giant panda conservation programme.
“I would personally like to thank all those involved within RZSS and our external partners for their professionalism and dedication over many months of preparation and hard work.
“Going forward we will conduct an exhaustive review and consult with other colleagues. RZSS is committed long term to giant panda conservation and working with our many research partners and colleagues in China.”
The outdoor viewing area of the panda enclosure at RZSS Edinburgh Zoo will open to the public today, 25 August 2015.
- See more at: Edinburgh Zoo - Tian Tian Update
taun
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They go back, and maybe the zoo can start to get more money in, and most importantly, get new animals and rebuild the collection. Pandas are the most expensive zoo animals, and almost every zoo that I know that doesn't pop out a cub in their stay loses money thanks to the Chinese's fee of one million dollars a year (and by the looks of it, money is the first thing that Edinburgh needs).
I agree but I think they are stuck with them ?
Are they not on a ten year contract? I doubt if they can get out of it either.
They are sadly. Zoo's that receive giant pandas can't send them back, and must have them for the full 10-year loan.
That's too bad because with so much money being paid to china thanks to the pandas, they don't have enough to bring in other species to help draw even more visitors, and animals that they are able to get from EAZA zoos(species that chatterers would probably like to see, and bringing animals that Edinburgh used to have, such as orangutans, komodo dragons, jaguars, wolves, sea lions, and Takin)
sooty mangabey
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Excellent article in yesterday's Guardian about the giant pandas. Balanced, and informed. Recommended!
Everything you always wanted to know about panda sex (but were afraid to ask) | Sam Knight | World news | The Guardian
Everything you always wanted to know about panda sex (but were afraid to ask) | Sam Knight | World news | The Guardian
That is a setback, disappointing news.
Hence why another member failed to see an adult male a week or so back. A male will be easier to replace than a female though.
Very interesting. Schaller of course has it right about the stimulation factor caused by a 'lek' type mating scenario. Its what I've always thought is the key factor missing in captive Pandas- lack of any chance for mate selection. Edinburgh seem to be admitting in this article too that their pair are not particularly compatible either, with the female not overly liking this particular male. They have both bred previously, but not as a pair together.
I wonder how much 'reabsorption' of a foetus has to do with stress levels i.e. something not right in the female's environment? E.g. Male's continual proximity to her den/birth area?
Perhaps next year, HWP could be factored into the whole procedure.