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I'm not sure that Malayan tapirs (or giant pandas) are monochromatic. For a start, they both have two distinct colours.
 
I'm not sure that Malayan tapirs (or giant pandas) are monochromatic. For a start, they both have two distinct colours.

My bad, shouldn't post whilst thinking of other things!:oops:

Any chance you can change it to something more fitting please Chli?
 
My bad, shouldn't post whilst thinking of other things!:oops:

Any chance you can change it to something more fitting please Chli?
no, sorry, then my reply won't make any sense. :p

If giant pandas and Malyan tapirs were old televisions, though, then your post would have been perfect*...





*...ly nonsensical
 
Well you should have quoted my post in your original reply and then we'd both have been satisfied! :p
 
B&W is monochrome because of the two, only white is a colour. Black is the absence of colour. ;)

Hang on, I always thought black AND white were both (technically) the absence of colour? Well that's what Neil Buchanan always said... ;):p

For the sake of everyday conversation obviously I call them colours! :)
 
Hang on, I always thought black AND white were both (technically) the absence of colour? Well that's what Neil Buchanan always said... ;):p

Optically, white is all the other colours at once. ;)
 
Hang on, I always thought black AND white were both (technically) the absence of colour? Well that's what Neil Buchanan always said... ;):p
Technically speaking when dealing with colors and spectra this is only too right.

When dealing with descriptive morphology within zoology circles one tends to give over to the claim B + W are colors.

A tad confusing …, I guess.
 
Back to Edinburgh Zoo matters: the breeding achievement in Malayan tapir is impressive.

Enclosure wise I like the nutritional enrichment for them in order to stimulate their having to exercise their dexterity to get at some "hanging fruit"!
 
B&W is monochrome because of the two, only white is a colour. Black is the absence of colour. ;)
but "black and white" is only a colloquial name for grey-scale. If discussing pelage then an object which is both distinctly black and white cannot be monochrome.
 
but "black and white" is only a colloquial name for grey-scale. If discussing pelage then an object which is both distinctly black and white cannot be monochrome.

My (tongue-in-cheek) point was that black is (if you're dealing in optics) not a colour at all. The colour of an object is the colour of the light it reflects - a black object absorbs all light, so a black object is not 'coloured black', it reflects no colours, so appears black on the retina. Monochrome ('one colour') would technically apply to an object split between black and white - a panda has areas coloured white and areas with no colour at all.

In normal usage, of course black is a colour (but not white or red - ask a snooker player!) and my whole point is ridiculous. ;)
 
My family and I enjoyed a pleasant evening at the zoo tonight for members night. The zoo was looking rather splendid in the evening spring sunshine. A couple of snippets of news:
  • The Sumatran tigers have been put in together in the lower enclosure
  • A Banteng calf has been born
  • Baku (Malayan Tapir) is still in the zoo awaiting his transfer, as are the Barbary Macaques
  • The Pygmy Hippo paddock has been separated down the middle and it looks like new grass has been laid on the side that the Hippo's can't get too
Are nyala still on-show?

Yes they are still on show.
 
Its sad about Baku as he is the first Tapir baby i had ever seen at the time and was born just days before I moved to Edinburgh. But if its whats best for him then i cant really complain.
 
Well I'm happy to say that I am graduating from college! As a graduation gift, I'll be taking a vacation to Scotland! One of the activities on the itinerary? A trip to the Edinburgh Zoo.

A few questions before my visit in a couple weeks:

*About how long does a normal visit take?
*When is the best time of day to go?
*Considering the fact that the facility is built on a hill, what's the best route to ensure we see most (if not everything) with as little backtracking as possible?
*When is the best time of day to see the giant pandas, as they have a timed ticket entry?
*There are several animals that I will be seeing for either the very first time, haven't seen for an incredibly long time, or are very rare here in the states. What are the chances and/or best times to see the following: Asian lion, Visayan spotted deer, vicuña, Kuhl’s hog deer, drill, gelada, Darwin's rhea, sun bear, margay, Scottish wildcat, Barbary macaque (see next point), pudu, and Chinese goral?
*I recently read that the Barbary macaques will be leaving soon. Will they still be around by the time of my visit?
*What is in the huge top two paddocks, as the map only says "Paddock" for each of them?
 
*About how long does a normal visit take?

It used to take about 5-6 hours to see everything properly, but given how much stuff has been lost in recent years I would say 3 hours would probably be sufficient now; when @ThylacineAlive and myself visited last August we spent about that long there and - even though it was his first visit and as such we were covering everything and returning to particular sections - couldn't really have justified spending much longer.

*When is the best time of day to go?

Try to get there for opening time, as this will allow you to view as much of the zoo as possible before the crowds build up; if, as suggested above, you end up spending about 3 or 4 hours at the zoo you would therefore have time to do as Thylo and myself did in August and visit the National Museum of Scotland in the city centre afterwards. Aforementioned museum contains a lot of unusual fossils and taxidermy specimens, including one of only three surviving specimens of the Mauritius Blue Pigeon (Alectroenas nitidissimus), the only Quagga photographed whilst alive and partial remains of a Bluebuck.

*Considering the fact that the facility is built on a hill, what's the best route to ensure we see most (if not everything) with as little backtracking as possible?

An accurate answer to this would probably be reliant on precisely when you end up seeing the Giant Pandas; however, assuming you see them as early in the day as possible I suggest you roughly view the collection going in a counter-clockwise route as this would take you to the Giant Panda house quite soon after entering the zoo.

*When is the best time of day to see the giant pandas, as they have a timed ticket entry?

As noted, if you aim to view the Giant Pandas as early as possible this will assist with avoiding backtracking around the zoo; moreover it means that if you feel you have seen everything the zoo has to offer you do not have to wait around for hours waiting for your panda slot.

*There are several animals that I will be seeing for either the very first time, haven't seen for an incredibly long time, or are very rare here in the states. What are the chances and/or best times to see the following: Asian lion, Visayan spotted deer, vicuña, Kuhl’s hog deer, drill, gelada, Darwin's rhea, sun bear, margay, Scottish wildcat, Barbary macaque (see next point), pudu, and Chinese goral?

Asian Lion - visible at any time, really. Being big cats and as such lazy, a little luck will be required re: whereabouts in their exhibit they are and thus whether or not they are visible.
Visayan Spotted Deer - visible at any time and pretty showy.
Vicuna - again, visible at any time and pretty showy.
Kuhl's Hog Deer - no chance whatsoever; the last two individuals were PTS sometime in 2016.
Drill - Showy, visible at any time. The only reason you might not see them is if they are in the process of being moved to the current Barbary exhibit and this area is blocked off whilst they settle.
Gelada - showy, visible at any time.
Darwin's Rhea - never had trouble myself but luck might play a part, as they sometimes like to stay hidden.
Sun Bear - there is viewing into their sleeping quarters so even if they are not feeling showy you should still see them in some fashion.
Margay - very little chance whatsoever; shy and nocturnal. Luck will be your biggest hope.
Scottish Wildcat - similar case to the margay, however you have slightly better chance of seeing these as they do like to sleep in the branches of trees and can sometimes be seen doing so.
Barbary Macaque - as long as they have not left, you will see them.
Pudu - used to be showy in their old exhibit, near-impossible in their new exhibit.
Chinese Goral - showy and easy to spot; you'd have to be unlucky in the extreme to miss them.

*I recently read that the Barbary macaques will be leaving soon. Will they still be around by the time of my visit?

Suspect they will be gone, but you never know.

*What is in the huge top two paddocks, as the map only says "Paddock" for each of them?

To the best of my knowledge bugger-all at present, I'm afraid!
 
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