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They have now rectified the problem with the link.

After a year of unsuccessful attempts to integrate the male chimpanzee into the group, the zoo have made the decision to put him to sleep.

Thoughts go out to his keepers.


Apologies for clashing with the post above
 
They've updated it now - they had to put him to sleep as he was unable to integrate safely with the group.

They have now rectified the problem with the link.

After a year of unsuccessful attempts to integrate the male chimpanzee into the group, the zoo have made the decision to put him to sleep.

Thoughts go out to his keepers.


Apologies for clashing with the post above

@Davef68 and @Jude T euthanising Maadili was a bit drastic. I know for certain that Monkey World would have taken Maadili in. Do you both agree?
 
That does sound a quite extreme outcome, it sounds a bit like the baby red river hog scandal from a few years back. However, if he was a non-mixer and also dangerous to other chimps, sending him elsewhere was probably not an option for them either- just moving the problem. So possibly the only option.
 
@Davef68 and @Jude T euthanising Maadili was a bit drastic. I know for certain that Monkey World would have taken Maadili in. Do you both agree?
I do agree with you here. I understand they’re the professionals but I’m sure something could’ve been done. I also fear that there could be problems if the activists catch wind of this.
 
That does sound a quite extreme outcome, it sounds a bit like the baby red river hog scandal from a few years back. However, if he was a non-mixer and also dangerous to other chimps, sending him elsewhere was probably not an option for them either- just moving the problem. So possibly the only option.

@Pertinax could I please ask what the baby Red River Hog scandal was?
 
@Pertinax could I please ask what the baby Red River Hog scandal was?

About 10 years ago, they allowed the RRH to breed, but then euthanized the piglets when they were older as they were over represented in the stud book. As I recall, this was under instruction for the stud book holder.

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BOSSES at Edinburgh Zoo have culled two Red River Hog piglets – because there is a "surplus" of the species.

Despite successfully breeding a pair last August for the first time in the zoo's history, the organisation was ordered by a worldwide breeding programme to kill little Sammi and Becca as they were "surplus to requirement"

It is feared that three other Red River Hog piglets currently living at the attraction could also be put to sleep.
A spokeswoman said the zoo worked closely with the European Endangered Species Programme (EEP), who had recommended the babies were culled rather than rehomed.

Other animals have been killed for the same reason at Edinburgh Zoo, but it is not known how often or how many. Species including Gentoo and King penguins, European otters, warthogs and several types of monkey are maintained under the same programme.

When the piglets were born last year, the attraction boasted on its website that Sammi and Becca were the first of their species to be delivered since they adopted two adult hogs in 2004.

One staff member said: "We hope that this is the first of many contributions our Red River Hogs make to the breeding programme."

When three more baby piglets were born in June, the website did not refer to the previous pair but proudly stated that the zoo was "delighted that for a second year our adult pair has produced piglets".

A spokeswoman today told the Evening News: "Sammi and Becca were humanely euthanised after the EEP identified a surplus. If a species does not have breeding recommendation, the EEP will advise culling rather than rehoming. As a member of the European Association of Zoos and Aquaria (EAZA), it is imperative that the Royal Zoological Society of Scotland complies with the recommendations.

"The EEP base their advice on strengthening the genetic diversity of the species."

She explained that the zoo did not prevent animals from breeding even if there was a risk they would have to cull the offspring because they liked to keep their environment as natural as possible.

She added that all staff had been told of the reasons for the cull and were given the opportunity to object.

But one "disgusted" staff member said: "We didn't have any say about what they were going to do. I found it pretty disgusting and was rather upset. I don't think it happens very often."

Ross Minett, campaigns director at OneKind - previously Advocates for Animals - said: "We believe it is wrong for these healthy, harmless animals to be culled. Sadly, this sort of practice does take place in zoos, which will surprise many people who believe that zoos are all about keeping animals safe from harm.

"If the zoo is unable to care for these animals, they should have been offered to a wildlife sanctuary or an alternative home found for them."

An Edinburgh Zoo spokesman said: "It was discussed with the EEP that we would breed and cull if necessary."The three piglets that we currently have at the zoo will remain here as long as it is viable to do so. We have no plans to euthanise them at this time."

Around 15 years ago, the zoo culled a number of Oryx antelope for the same reason.

But Jody the lioness saw a happier outcome when she contracted FSE, the feline version of BSE, after the Evening News campaigned to save her.

Zoo culls 'surplus' hogs
 
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This chimp decision has a different backstory but its still an unusual thing for a zoo to do.

Yeah, it does seem like Maadili had issues that were unable to be dealt with, I know they tried a lot of enrichment with him, giving him lots of things to nest build and rip up. You have to wonder what happened to him in his early life.
 
I know I should make better notes but I visited in 2015 and know I saw several species of Penguin but I would be grateful if someone could definitively say what they had in 2015 and what they have lost/gained since then.
 
I know I should make better notes but I visited in 2015 and know I saw several species of Penguin but I would be grateful if someone could definitively say what they had in 2015 and what they have lost/gained since then.

I visited in January of that year. The species were/still remain there Gentoo, Northern Rockhopper and King :)
 
@Davef68 and @Jude T euthanising Maadili was a bit drastic. I know for certain that Monkey World would have taken Maadili in. Do you both agree?

I'd like to see your evidence of this or are you basing this on a rose tinted spectacles view due to a TV show? Carefully edited and produced to show only the amusing and heartbreaking moments-not the dreary drudgery of shovelling tons of animal crap or the horrors of unexpected illness and swift death of your animals when you least expect it?

Real life ain't like any TV show.

As others have said, no guarantee anyone would have taken an ape with a history of violent behaviour. What are they going to do with it if it doesn't integrate? Keep it on its own for the rest of its life or shuffle it off to become someone else's problem?

Zoos are businesses after all, sometimes they have to make unpleasant decisions.
 
"Zoos are businesses after all, sometimes they have to make unpleasant decisions"
Not sure this type of decision is business related, I would imagine it's got more to do with animal welfare.
 
"Zoos are businesses after all, sometimes they have to make unpleasant decisions"
Not sure this type of decision is business related, I would imagine it's got more to do with animal welfare.
I think my argument covers both points. I was pointing out the naivety of assuming a "rescue" would come swooping in to solve any and all problems with their magic fairy wand.
Even they have to make decisions based on funds and where the money can best be spent, in addition to welfare concerns.
 
I think my argument covers both points. I was pointing out the naivety of assuming a "rescue" would come swooping in to solve any and all problems with their magic fairy wand.
Even they have to make decisions based on funds and where the money can best be spent, in addition to welfare concerns.
Yes I agree
 
Asiatic lioness Roberta and her daughter Mitaali, born in 2019, could move from Edinburgh as part of the European Endangered Species Programme, both females could leave Scotland in early 2022.

It is planned that the three males will remain at Edinburgh. Jeyendra could be vasectomised and the two male cubs castrated to live out their lives together.

Edinburgh Zoo's vital role saving endangered lion species
So 2 UK zoos removed as breeders in a week! What is going on?!
 
Am not renewing my membership this year they have had good success with Asian lions now this it all seams like get rid of species to keep pandas to me and species they do keep are mostly same sex groups major muck up on there program as well Guinea fowl left but they said Phil and his sons when the program before was a youngster female getting a broken leg sorted they have only breed them a few times

About the program its pandas penguins chimps hippos mostly and a new hippo birth but then she had one last year or is this the same birth in 2 programs
 
Asiatic lioness Roberta and her daughter Mitaali, born in 2019, could move from Edinburgh as part of the European Endangered Species Programme, both females could leave Scotland in early 2022.

It is planned that the three males will remain at Edinburgh. Jeyendra could be vasectomised and the two male cubs castrated to live out their lives together.

Edinburgh Zoo's vital role saving endangered lion species
I apologise if this is a daft question but why vasectomise Jay and castrate the other 2? Would it not just make sense to vasectomise all 3 or castrate all 3?
 
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